To the anti-abortion people, a question...

It's only in rare instances that the ill and old do not suffer profusely, exceedingly more than the young and healthy. And it certainly was worse for an ill and/or old slave than for anyone else in most instances.

The ill and the old slaves were an asset listed on the books who brought diminishing returns. Hell of a thing to say, but that's how it was in the antebellum South.

It stood for too long, then it was forced to fall.

 

Thank you for the history lesson, but what I was pointing out was that ethically murder is worse than slavery and a war was fought over slavery.

You misread. I used "they". I disagree with them (pro-life} and probably you.

I see your point to explain the relative inaction of the pro-life movement, they rationalize their inaction away.

 

Past is prologue.

 

They were the ones in that strange SciFi novel, right?

 

I don't think people would stand for that kind of horror. but....

You can get pretty close to that in New York now. Go there instead. Pretty soon in Virginia too! I think they are too busy to vote on the bill now though, they have to figure out what to do with the Racist baby killing governor, the rapist Lt. Governor, and the racist Attorney general, all democrats by the way.

 

So you did not directly answer my question either, but by your comment I assume you believe the "murder" of a fetus is different than the "murder" of a toddler. Their lives have different values but the rhetoric used by the pro-life people overlooks that distinction and they say babies are being murdered when they do not believe it themselves.

 

Sure I answered you, I said I don't think people will stand for that. I'm sure that's not the answer you want want to hear, but too bad.

 

It is what I expected, a non-answer. The question was would your actions be different and it seems they would be therefore even pro-lifers believe a fetus has less value and less rights than a born individual.

 

When society is engineered through its laws and culture to view the killing of toddlers as a right of the mother or father, then those against such killing would be in the same situation as right to life people are now.

The agenda held by right to life people today... would be at play in your situation....to change society's attitude towards toddlers from disposable non-persons to a valued human life due the same protections as adults.

Today female infanticide is rampent in India and other countries where females are considered expensive or devalued. And activists are trying to change the attitude in those countries so that female New borns and toddlers aren't killed.

If toddlers were devalued by society and being killed at whim here in United States, then activists would be at work here to change societies priorities, would be pushing adoption, would be advocating the same programs trying to be implemented in India today to combat female infanticide.

 

Excellent way of coming to the conclusion you desire! 20 points added to liberal status! Winner!

 

So you are saying you would not change your behavior even if it were toddlers being butchered?

 

If we get there with toddlers let me know.....


But abortion is wonderful

 

How is my conclusion wrong? There are "baby killers" on the loose and what have you done lately to save the "babies"?

 

Abortion is not wonderful. It is a crude and sad form of birth control that in a perfect world would be made unnecessary.

 

yes, if someone is so dead set against abortion (to preserve life) and if they wholeheartedly beleive in saving them, then why are they not being more vocal, why are they not actually doing something about it other than using it as a campaign tool...

my guess is, its because they are a law abiding bunch and realize the proper procedure is to get the right politicians & justices into office, to make a legitimate change...

 

perception... perfect is perceived differently depending on one's perception...

 

I wish heart surgery was unnecessary. But that too is wonderful

 

Right. What would you do? How would you rescue these children when it wouldn't be lawful to do so?? You'd end up in jail right?

Did you not read my post? Do you realize that toddlers are being killed in real life in other societies?? How do we save them?

 

I am sorry you do not see a difference. There is an emotional element and a living thing is being lost hopefully for a greater good.

 

It is a medical procedure. It is equal to having a tooth pulled

 

Those other societies have a cultural problem more difficult to control when the feticides are performed in an non-institutionalized way but it is different here. Here you have millions on your side, enough people to paralyze law enforcement, to take down the buildings where abortions are performed, to stop government functioning but there seems to be a lack of will to save all the "babies"..

 

Ridiculous response, not to the women having it done.

 

The biggest reported feeling after an abortion is relief....just like a dental extraction

 

Yeah, "hopefully". But somehow I have my doubts...

 

With an attitude like that, it's no wonder there are women swinging in and out the doors of abortion clinics twice a year.