Today they were forced to admit that Covid 19 does not exist

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  1. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    If masks don't work, why do surgeons wear them...and gloves, gowns, etc. If social distancing doesn't work, why do we isolate the ill, such as one with the flu, and cover our mouths when we cough or sneeze? To demand that science establish self evident truth is to have vacated common sense. Then she goes on to state that the entire approach and counsel regarding the virus is the work of psychopaths, and the vaccines an effort to alter our DNA and kill us by the billions. (Talk about psychotic!)She said vaccines aren't natural. Actually it was observing human immunity in a natural environment that gave a Doctor the idea for a vaccine a couple hundred years ago. And it worked. I think it was for small pox. Anyway the woman is a kook, imo. It doesn't matter what a particular agency has or doesn't have at the ready for every suspicious mind who wanders in from the foggy forest.
     
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    So you even know who full fact is? And since you advanced them, show their work, as they did not. If, as you suggest, their word for it is all you need, tell us why their word for it is worth anything? If, as asserted in the originating OP video, no actual isolation evidence from the national agency was possible, how do you explain the absence of actual documentation of that agency?
     
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    I provided evidence of isolation. With documentation. Please read.
     
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    You missed the important parts of your questions. For example surgeons wear masks because? They protect the patient. The mask does not protect the surgeon from the patient. Everything about an operating theatre is designed to protect to the extent possible the patient, not the other way around. Explain the evidence that a 6' barrier between people protects them. Is there a study you'd like to advance for consideration? There is a lot of evidence that suggests that social distance doesn't stop infection, that masks don't protect folks from infections.

    When you say "isolate the sick" that actually refers to quarantine. The purpose of which was to protect the rest of society from illness. Tell us where this has been implemented. Explain the precautions made to isolate the sick.

    If you're to invoke common sense, then do so. If, as it seems, masks don't protect the healthy, distancing hasn't protected the healthy, what are we to assume about your narrative, other than it is grandiose wishful thinking?
     
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    Show where it was isolated, purified and sequenced from purified virus RNA.

    While you're at it, show which lab sample the makers of the PCR test used to sequence their probes
     
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    I did. Your citation doesn't answer the questions I then asked, which is why I asked. Why do you suppose that your source is credible? You cited a group who claim that they are effective 'fact checkers' and yet, not a single credential about who they are is available on their site. Convenient, huh... But you believe them.
     
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    I've shown where it has been isolated and sequenced, per the OP. The virus is real. It wasn't made up by the Sasquatch illuminati.
     
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    They dont seem to understand the concept of surgical wound infections and mask usage
     
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    I've pointed to peer reviewed research. That has been replicated. Yes, credentials are easily available for the people who conducted the research. No failure of homework on your part will prove that the virus was invented by the illuminati.
     
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    No, you haven't.
    Neither the CDC nor the PCR maker can tell you where purified virus and purified RNA exist
     
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    So whom do we ask? Can you cite a credible source for you isolation narrative? Other than the fact checking site you used already??
     
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    You didn't , in fact. You used a fact checker site from the UK that claims they are non partisan, and yet doesn't report their makeup or leadership publicly. Don't ask me to research for you. As you have said many times to others....
     
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    Given that you understand that surgeons wear masks to protect patients from infection and disease that they may introduce into the environment, what do you suppose is the result of everyone wearing masks when in public spaces?
     
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    Evidently, given the actual evidence from folks in these places infecting each other, it doesn't work outside of the medical environment, does it. not a question. CA is a great example of everyone being masked, distanced, and yet infections are through the roof. And to add, do you actually imagine that the general public remotely go to the rigor of an operating theatre?
    Better question, if you wore a mask, and you tried to distance, and you still got the virus, how did that happen?
     
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    Oh, you have “actual evidence”? Do tell.

    What’s the point of your hypothetical?
     
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    I have provided links to research showing that the virus has been isolated and sequenced. I don't care about whatever other shifting of the goalposts you have to advance the fringe conspiracy that the virus isn't real.
     
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    Yes. Yes it does work outside "the medical environment." No, not everyone in CA is masked and distancing. Please join us back here in reality.
     
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    I provided links to the actual research. Not just UK fact checkers. And it is obvious you didn't look at the research that either I or the fact checkers linked to. Please read.
     
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    I don't care who Full Fact is. I care about the information they cite. Yes, they did show their work. No, I didn't suggest that "their word is all I need."

    The OP's entire claim is based on submitting a form and not getting a response. No, this does not prove that no documentation exists. And I have provided documentation. Please catch up so that you can stop spreading misinformation that is killing people.
     
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    Which is where again? The fantasy that you had a point to make? And clearly, no, masking and distancing haven't worked. Nor did the shutdowns. If any of that had worked, we could actually point to places where infections weren't happening all the time. More, we should be able to demonstrate both the stoppage and the cessation of infections. But, we haven't seen that, have we. Everywhere, in public, that I go, I see folks masked. Every store, place of business, etc requires them. Folks wear them. Folks try to be considerate and distance. And yet, folks who get tested test positive a lot. No explanation of how. I'll use contact tracing from a fairly large hospital locally, where several nurses, staff, doctors have tested positive. (All asymptomatic fyi) they tracked it to their break rooms, where employees were gathering off floor, masked, and distanced. Go figure....
     
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    This was the only link so far that you've provided.
    https://fullfact.org/health/Covid-isolated-virus/

    Done.
     
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    The only part of that sentiment that matters is the part where you admit you don't care who Full Fact is. And yet, you religiously adhere to their narrative. Shocking.
     
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    This is false. Please read the thread before spreading additional misinformation. And please actually review the links that Full Fact provides.
     

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