Top Secret Service agent says he had AA77 / UA93 on radar for 45 minutes!

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  1. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    Secret Service agent Nelson Garabito, head of the White House air defense states in 2011 that after the Twin Towers got hit, the FAA had informed him about AA77 and UA93, their direction and speed, while they were 30 minutes, respectively 45 minutes away from the White House:

    ''So we knew we had some time, but little time":


    https://archive.org/details/CNNW_20110907_030000_CNN_Presents#start/2640/end/2700




    Furthermore, he confirms that in the last few critical minutes and seconds, they had the position and speed of AA77 as it passed the CIA HQ and the White House:

    https://archive.org/details/CNNW_20110907_030000_CNN_Presents#start/2700/end/2760

    He makes it crystal clear that the last 2 attacks were not a surprise. Why the state of the art ground to air missiles that travel at several MACH were never fired and AA77 was allowed to come near the White House despite what had happened in NYC is a good question I believe. The 9/11 Commission Report speaks about the presence of air defense systems around the White House and the so called 'shootdown orders' of Cheney which in fact never happened. The whole 9/11 event is a paradox.
     
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    Anything to support the hijacked airliners story.....
    The whole thing is a fabrication.
    The TRUTH may not be revealed for decades at the rate things are going.
    The propaganda machine has told you that anybody who sez there were no hijacked airliners is mental.

    ...... whatever .......
     
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    yeah,shoot missiles at a plane over a highly populated area.....real smart.
     
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    With reference to the damages caused by the impact of the plain on the Pentagon, we could also remind that around that structure there are automatic anti air defenses [like fast guns] which could have hit the plane in the last moment of its flights [so that not an entire plane crashed against the facade of the building].

    But ...

    the defenses of the Pentagon are obviously classified, so that we are in the field of the pure hypothesis.
     
  5. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    But those of the White House aren't in the sense that their existence has been confirmed on different occasions.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, first of all, they had no idea what the hijackers intentions were and crashing the planes had never happened before. You have to use some common sense.
     
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    Please look at the info in the link in post #6. There were no hijackers. The government did it. Those were robot planes and they were empty.
     
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    And yet,you STILL have no proof of that fantastical claim
     
  11. Vlad Ivx

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    Shanksville looked like one perfect place to bring down one of the planes so maybe you're right. After all you had Bush himself calling for such actions after the Pentagon crash (according to him). It seems the situation got out of hand even for those who staged it. Orders that were hoped to work slowly might have worked better than planned and either UA93 lagged behind schedule or a jet fighter caught up with it faster than expected. We don't know that at the moment. But there did seem to be confusion:

    The fact that Building 7 had to collapse without a plane as well as the fact that AA77 went for the White House and then turned around some 90 degrees to go to the Pentagon and then again made a loop turn at the Pentagon area seem to suggest unexpected changes in the plan. It seemed like AA77 was either testing the response of Secret Service air defense or simply changed its mind about its target, then again hesitated about crashing into the Pentagon. I believe that in truth, what it wanted with that loop turn in front of the Pentagon was to get a better angle for the crash like the way it did in order to minimize the damage. Landing it on the roof would have caused a major fire. Hitting the side like it did caused a very limited fire as we saw. You supporters of the official story don't believe such terrorists to be stupid, do you?

    It is ridiculous that you had blood thirsty AA77 close in on the Pentagon then move back in a loop then close in again but that's what it did according to radar data and air traffic controllers.

    The thing about UA93 passengers fighting back was possibly made up in order to touch on the emotional string of the American people. It seems like a lucky bit of coincidence that UA93's cockpit voice recorder was the only of the 4 'recovered' yet to this day it is not available to the public. They had to claim they recovered it in order to sell the heroic passengers version. But I bet they're never gonna make it public because they don't have it. And they won't risk faking it either, not after all the mistakes they've done so far in the bad live TV show called 9/11. 9/11... The most unconvincing live TV show ever.
     
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    Making stuff up now out of whole cloth?

    AA77 flew within 5 miles of the white house,but there was NO indication it's target was it.

    Andno,the terrorists were NOT stupid,they were for the most part well to do and college educated,but they WERE inexperienced flying airliners,as the only had flown in simulators.
    And the loop is no big deal..inexperience,remember?

    And the passengers of United 93 WERE heroes that day,the fact that you feel the need to denigrate that memory tells something about you.
     
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    You mean like the calls from the airliners themselves? Da Gubmit didit is poppycock for the mindless.
     
  14. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    Yet again we have Hoosier calling for common sense without reading the entire post. At the exact same moment of the phone call, it was revealed to Agent Garabito that both towers had been hit in NYC, in case u didn't watch the links. So he must have assumed they were coming to drop fliers. Drop flyers from an airliner sounds very likely.

    By the way, in 1994 there was an attempt to crash a Cessna 150 into the White House. As explained by this retired Secret Service agent named Joseph Funk, they decided not to shoot down that one down. The White House was empty and the plane was small. It looked like the building could take it so they allowed it to happen in order to protect civilians, but the target was missed anyway:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-72oE9yOGc#t=560

    (there's so many people owning private planes and helicopters in the vast United States who might have a grudge for the president, so common sense demands that the White House is also protected from above - that was 1994 and that year the threat was confirmed to be real)

    I recommend watching the entire documentary. It's interesting to see all the gear used to protect the president, and keep in mind that this is from a few years ago. It's been declared on numerous occasions by official sources that the president is protected with the best of teh best technology available to the United States.
     
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    There's some very wrong things with those calls but that should be the subject for another thread.
     
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    There's a good analysis of the phone calls issue at the 1:38:35 time mark of this video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M
    "September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)"

    It's pretty clear the phone calls were bogus.
     
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    That is a riveting testimony from Nelson Garabito.
     

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