Torture, is it wrong?

Of course not. Why do you ask?

 

Why create a law we won't follow??

 

Would you rather than a very evil person be tortured or that thousands of innocents be murdered? Can not murdering and allowing an attack to happen even more evil?

 

what if they aren't seeking information relevent to the war, but simply want to cause the enemy soldier extreme pain and suffering?

u ok with that?

 

If you bought the rice paddy you didn't have time to even think about torture, and you couldn't carry a silencer, so you couldn't hardly kill either. Run, hide, hope for extraction.

 

They're supposed to kill us. We're supposed to kill them. You want to be stronger, leaner, meaner, faster, more heartless, and more vicious than them.

 

Torture, especially if you're not trying to get info useful to the war effort, is symptomatic of a sociopathic and sadistic personality.

Of course its wrong.

 

I'm ready to sacrifice my life for the cause of making sure tyrannical acts like torture, rape, and genocide are a thing of the past.

Are you?

Torture is wrong, and it's still wrong if it supposedly saves lives. If you torture someone, you're just one of the very evil people.

Besides, it's a moot point, because torture doesn't work.

 

You know, when extremists in the middle east are trying to make people hate the US and make the US seem like a bunch of murderous tyrants who just want to inflict suffering, pain, and take away people's rights, you're doing their job for them.

It must be the cushiest job in the world, because there are always plenty of americans around to prove them right.

 

So, you don't put any stock in investigations into whether or not torture has actually given any valuable information? Because it hasn't. Looking at cases where torture has given information of value, there are none.

Tell me; if you're being tortured, what is your incentive for telling the truth?

Remember, the people who torture you don't have the faintest idea what the facts are, so what is the point in your telling the truth?

What an absolutely disgusting statement. "Oh, I guess some people were innocent, but **** 'em anyway! Let's get some torture going!".

 

8th amendment.

 

I don't suppose you read the report that shows that torture doesn't actually work?

Besides, if you abandon your principles in war, you've already lost.

 

If that is indeed the goal, then there's no use in torturing people, because it doesn't work.

Oh, he has information? What is his incentive to tell the truth under torture? What does he gain by doing so?

 

...and there due process goes out the window!

"No evidence that they did anything wrong? Meh, torture 'em anyway! UHMERICUH, **** YEAH!"

 

Did you miss the part where it doesn't work? Because there really is no excuse for you to miss it.

 

Tell me, in that case, would you rape the person's 5 year old daughter in order to make him tell you?

 

It is against our constitution under the 8th amendment. Our ansestors have already argued this, we could even refer to the Magna Carta from 1215.

 

Are you comfortable with repealing the 8th amendment of our constitution?

 

In USA hundreds of thousands of people are tortured by Supermax Prisons -- it is wrong.

 

USA did torture tens of thousands of POWs in Vietnam War.

 

George Washington and Thomas Jefferson abolished the torture of free people, which was still very common in Europe. GW and TJ were great men, but they had great character flaws -- they owned slaves.

 

Yes, all people are flawed, especially through the eyes of history. And I know I am a broken record but our 8th amendment forbids it.

 

I believe you are wrong on both accounts, if someone kidnap one of my children and I find one of them, I'll chop them up bit by bit until they tell me where they are... under any other circumstances I wouldn't even contemplate doing something like that. If you can save 500 people by at least trying to get information out of someone, instead of just standing around doing nothing, then in my opinion do it. These people who die are all part of families, important to someone, doing nothing is worse.

The last line of yours is a nice slogan, but in my opinion you win or you lose, survive or die. You can win badly but dead is dead, there's no losing in a good way.

 

And what's the weight of these reports of yours?

Let's say torture actually was effective. Would these guys say in their reports "torture works and it's an extremely effective way to get intelligence", and list all the best methods to do it?

Because if there's only one choice in what you're allowed to publish anyways, it has no significance, it's just more political correctness at work.

Sounds like a line from a movie. How about dealing with the real world?

 

I'd torture paedophiles, but only if I was stopped from killing them.