Trace minerals and longevity + health?

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My wife is from Quito, Ecuador so I heard a lot of amazing things about this area of the world. The first time that I heard about amazing longevity was actually a documentary done back in the 1970's. This explanation may help you to know how Jewish baby boomers can live extremely healthy lives of well over one century.




    .vilcabamba.org/article.html
     
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    Dr. Wallach does an excellent job of documenting WHY the Western Medical System has FAILED US and exactly what we need to do to generally live a longer, healthier life. Having personally followed much of the advice presented in this show during the past couple years, I can personally say I feel healthier and more vibrant (when NOT on certain pharmaceutical drugs!) Dr. Wallach doesn't come right out and say "take ownership of your own health", but he does give you the tools within this show to generally live a longer, fuller, more productive life.[video=youtube;bIK_pxktXTQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIK_pxktXTQ[/video]
     
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    YES!!!!!!!

    The story about how and when and why Dr. Wallach got fired........ fits perfectly with a number of articles that I have read about all this.

    Here is one that may be very significant:


    .healthwisdom.org/aidsminera.htm

    AIDS THE TRACE MINERALS FAMINE IMMUNE WEAKNESS
    COMPILED AND EDITED BY DR. LEO REBELLO
    President, AIDS Alternativa International


     
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    I am not sure to what extent nutritional sugars fits with trace minerals but.........

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=391591&page=5&p=1065845746#post1065845746

     
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    Dirt is getting into everything.



     
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    What is in that dirt could hold the key to solving some serious problems!


    http://www.youngevity.net/category/dwj.html

     
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    No. We understand minerals very well. Dirt is dirt, except when it's snake oil.



     
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    So then you are certain that trace minerals or some other nutritional deficiency could not possibly hold the key to treating cystic fibrosis?

    Snake oil takes many forms...... and sometimes large companies don't want people to know that the treatment that they are promoting is not the best....... or the lowest cost...... or the most effective!

    Have you heard about how Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski was treated even though he had the only known cure for some types of brain cancer.

    http://www.burzynskimovie.com
     
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    Not all dirt is the same. If it were, we wouldn't have Superfund sites :wink:
     
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    Exactly! My daughter in law's mom is from the area of Loja, Ecuador so I have heard things about the water and soil there that tends to verify the theory that trace minerals can improve health and longevity.

    It is true that some people there exaggerated their age to gain attention..... but they were very old..... and they could still work in the fields at quite strenuous jobs!
     
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    Once processed, food grade diatomaceous earth, which is different than just dirt, is supposed to be beneficial with numerous health issues if ingested regularly and in the right quantity. If it is not food grade or you take too much at once, it can have very bad consequences,like death, organ failure, etc. It doubles as an insecticide because it shreds insect exoskeletons.
     
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    I prefer Dr. Leo Rebello's idea of adding ninety trace minerals to fertilizer........ grow veggies or fruit in the fertilizer..... eat the fruit or veggies...... and this can average out to a cost of about one dollar per person per year. (At the time that Dr. Leo wrote his article anyway)!

    Oh.... Dr. Leo is campaigning to become President of India...... I hope he makes it:

    https://www.saddahaq.com/dr-leo-rebello-for-president-of-india-2017
     
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    I think it has transitional value but my problem with additives and fertilizers is that it still leaves our food supply in the hands of megacorporations. While I do still fertilize some, I am working toward an approach that tries to minimize additional inputs that do not originate on my own property (leaves, grass clippings and the like). It does take a lot more trial and error than just sticking with traditional varieties of food crops. I am also working in more fruit trees and bushes that are more indigenous to my own area that require less water and supplements. I prefer a garden that produces throughout the season as opposed to one that has all of a certain crop come in at once so it gives me more time to wait and see what happens.
     
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    Actually the Dr. Leo Rebello article did state that leaves are a great source of trace minerals due to the way that roots go so far down into the earth.
     
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    Part of the trick is to keep roots in the ground and to compost in place. The trick isn't just the minerals but also keeping the microorganisms in the soil alive. I will never go full-bore extreme like Masanobu Fukuoka, but self-fertilizing gardens are something that have a lot of appeal to me both logically and emotionally.
     
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    Yes, I'm certain trace minerals are not the cure. But feel free to eat dirt if you're desperate enough to believe otherwise.



     
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    There are better tasting ways to get trace minerals into our diet!

    Pink Himalayan salt is one of them!
     
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    I am considering buying a few of those lamps made from the stuff.
     
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    And when you get tired of them..... you could hammer them up and cook with them..... it really is a quite good tasting type of salt.
     
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    I've seen it at Aldi's and always intend to buy some but never do because of the way ours is laid out, little old ladies will smash you if you spend more than 3 seconds in front of the spice area.
     
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    I can only imagine!

    Up here in Canada there is only about a million people in the entire province of Nova Scotia so shopping is a whole lot less hazardous. The small town of Antigonish has only 5000 residents!
     
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    I live in the south so most of our grocery stores are really big. When people from up north come visiting they are amazed at our ability to create some massive stores in the land of cheap and plentiful land. Aldi's is a notable exception and that is the problem. People are used to aisles you could drive a car down and aldis has barely enough room for two carts to pass so if you stop for more than a couple beats you are causing a major traffic tie up. One of the reasons we no longer have krogers in my city is because their stores were too big and people stopped going to them because it took so much energy just to shop, so somebody got the bright idea that they needed to build an even bigger store to consolidate two big locations and their sales plummeted. That thing was like half the size of a super walmart but it was a lot of wasted space. You could have parked a semi with its trailer attached in the produce section and still had plenty of room to get around it.
     
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    You just proved that you do not understand dirt very well at all........ or water... because the dirt and water of Vilcabamba, Ecuador may well hold a potential key to an improvement in longevity and health.
     
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    Water is two hydrogen atoms attached to an oxygen atom. It is very well understood.



     
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    "The Vilcabamba Claim — This “Valley of Longevity” was promoted in the 1970s. Out of a total population of 819, the town boasted seven men and two women older than 100 years old. One man, Miguel Carpio, said that he was 123 years old. Another, Jose David, claimed to be 142 years old. Gabriel Erazo claimed to be 132 years old. Victor Maza claimed to be 120. The source of longevity was variously described as a pristine environment (“mountain water”), healthy habits such as constant movement, and isolation from the mainstream world.

    However, an investigation in 1979 by Dr. Richard Mazess of the University of Wisconsin, Madison and Dr. Sylvia Forman of the University of California, Berkeley found that there was not a single centenarian living in Vilcabamba.** The oldest person in the village was found to be 96. The average age of those claiming to be over 100 years was actually 86 years. Far from being a Shangri-La of very old people, the researchers concluded that: 'Individual longevity in Vilcabamba is little, if any, different from that found throughout the rest of the world.' (link)


    ** R. Mazes, S. Forman; Journal of Gerontology 1979 Jan; 34(1): 94-8



     

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