Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is nothing to congratulate about.
    I decided to stay open, because I fall under the essential business category. It is a economic decision for us, me and employees.
    But if you make that decision you have to make it in a responsible way.
    Its my duty, the buck stops with me. I am the Boss ( Best Of all **** Shovlers ).
    It is my frisking duty, nothing else, because I am Boss and have to be able to get up in the morning and look straight into that mirror, look into my eyes without flinching.
    Leadership, no matter how small, or large, has to be based on moral values.
    You take care of your people they follow you.
    Today we had a emergency. The competition close for the week.
    We got flooded with customer. My employees called me. So I went to the business, 20 miles drive and sorted the place out.
    Told every none essential to leave, wait outside, everybody without a mask had to leave, or put one of our self-made masks on. Some refused, I threw them out. I am the get your f.... ars out of here, or I grab you by what ever you have between your legs, guy.
    I am a ex Sergeant Special Force, you do not foook around with me. I can make Michael Paraport look like a ***** foot when it comes to language.
    My employees are my people, you fooook around with them, I will give ya a wake up call, you will never forget.
    Basta
     
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    The only point I’ve made is that the deaths per million of population is that stat can be used to compare countries. I first made that point about Sweden which is employing a herd immunity strategy with modifications.

    Your statements are untruthful. And I suspect written to provoke an inappropriate response.

    My statement supported by Johns-Hopkins is that the Corona virus symptoms are flu like but Corona is more contagious. Again IMO your post is written to provoke.

    I just pointed out that the number is always increasing. Comparing daily real time data is not freezing the number in time.

    Nice try.
     
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    ...Strangely Silent?

    On a day that the US saw a record setting 1900 deaths? On a day that the world saw a record setting 7300 deaths?
     
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    Still waiting on you to explain whether you agree that the case/mortality rates can be determined by taking the confirmed case/deaths and dividing that number by the total population of a region/country.
     
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    To your point about entering a new phase, the US had 4 States show 100+ deaths (and a 5th just barely missed the mark with 96) in a single day.
     
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    If it goes up every day, then you are not talking about the rate of mortality or the rate of infection (unless the virus is becoming more infectious and more lethal every single day).
     
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    I admittedly simply skimmed through the posts which I was alluding to, but it seemed to me there was an argument about using population figures to arrive at mortality rates for the virus. Mainly, in an attempt to make those mortality rates appear low.

    I hate saying anything 'untruthful' and, if by chance, my recollection and representation of your arguments with another poster here on the issue is wrong, then I certainly don't mind being corrected and would apologize for it.
     
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    Yes, strange
     
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    I wonder if the potential that some people are "strangely silent" because they are dead or grieving for the dead has occurred to you.
     
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    To be clear, I asked another poster to find a single person that agreed with that specific method and then AFM responded by implying that it was proper. I then asked him several times to clarify whether he personally agreed with that methodology for determining the rate of infection/mortality and his response was to continually say, "You know what I am saying."
     
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    Nope, cuz that's silly
     
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    Take a moment to look over this chart and then re-evaluate what you consider silly.

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    I never claimed otherwise.
     
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    And again my point is that if the denominator is not know any calculation is meaningless.
     
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    We have enough data to estimate the denominator within a reasonably defined margin of error.

    Thus, the calculation is not meaningless, it just contains - by necessity - a margin of error.
     
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    Perhaps youd like you'd like to discuss the number of daily reported new cases in the US, as reported on the CDC website?

    Of course you know these numbers, and were strangely silent.
     
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    How do you know that ?? The Australian medical science officer stated that the number of infections could be 10X the number of cases.
     
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    Too funny. Read my statement again. Of course it is possible to calculate a metric consisting of the number of deaths per person based on the total population and call that a mortality rate based on total population. You could do the same based on the number of cases, the estimated number of infections, and the number of Volkswagen owners if you wanted. The only unknown is the number of infections. And that’s us the issue. We don’t yet know the number of infections.

    Mortality is most commonly calculated by dividing the deaths by the number of infections. But we don’t know the denominator.
     
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    a "reasonably defined margin of error".
    Now that's funny.
     
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    An average of 8,000 Americans die each day. We're heading towards 11,000/day for several days.... what a nightmare. I am so dreading two weeks after Easter.
     
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    11,000 per day ??? Where does that come from ????
     
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    My question is who came up with the models that said 30million would get the virus and 2 million deaths that T was pushing last week? It appears those models were flawed bigtime.
    Long damn way from the 2 million that you were talking the last two weeks when railing on Trump. Thank god this thing isn't growing anywhere close to the 20-30million would be infected that your models predicted.
     
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    You are missing the part where millions of Americans are doing their part and staying the bleep home in order to not spread this thing. Left unchecked, the numbers would be off the charts ridiculo-crazy.

    When something works the way it's intended, there will always be people who claim there was never a need to do the "thing" in the first place. Don't be one of those people, please.
     

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