Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

It's interesting about our hospitalization rate. It's a contrast to our deaths per million rate. In that metric, we're doing much better than other countries. We are at 45 dead per million. Are we not caught up on reporting, or are we doing a better job? I've no idea.

Spain - 316
Italy - 292
Belgium -193
France - 167
Netherlands -131
UK -105
Switzerland -103
Sweden -68
Iran - 48
Ireland - 48

 

As I said: This thread is about facts. There are hundreds of threads for you to defend and or admonish a politician.

 

I'm not sure we can reasonably base "success" on a comparison of deaths per million between countries because the U.S. has a vast amount of land, but half the infections and deaths are on a relatively small plot of land (New York and other northeastern states).

The approach the task force is taking is to focus on the hot spots at a county-level or city-level of infection outbreaks and trying to focus and mobilize limited resources on those outbreaks rather than looking at the overall national statistics. That seems a good approach since the whole country is not experiencing this virus the same way, just as Sweden is not experiencing the virus the same way as Italy. It depends on what's happening where we live.

 

Not the best example for a valid enough point. Sweden seems very much on the same track as UK and, before them, Italy.

 

Typical Trumper response of attacking anyone who questions Der Leader. There are a lot of dead Americans because Trump didn't listen to Navarro and his medical experts. Incredibly, Trump was talking about firing up the economy before Easter.

Right now, I'm riding this out in British Columbia. Five million people, 1386 cases, 48 deaths. That would 80+K cases if BC was the size of the United States. There was a early spike of cases, but social distancing has brought down daily new cases to around 30.

Trumper doubles down.

You might do a bit of research before deciding there's no problem.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/13/814917520/rural-towns-insulated-from-coronavirus-now-may-take-a-harder-hit-later

 

There's no reason not to comment on the facts. No need to reply.

 

Yes, I understand. Still though, you must agree that hardly any country has shared Italy's experience (so far).

 

Well, for one thing, EACH person Demanding this 65 times a day gets a little redundant, especially when it goes on for THREE friggin years.

 

Actually, Spain has done worse, with 316 deaths per million compared to Italy's 292. And there are plenty of other countries giving Italy a good run in this competition of who is doing the worse, including Belgium (193 deaths per million), France (167), Netherlands (131), UK (105), Switzerland (103) who are each not all that far behind. And Sweden is also working hard to join those with more than 100 deaths per million, already at 68 deaths per million and heading in the wrong direction.

 

Applause.

 

Let me explain what a reasonable educated and informed small business owner did.
When Corona hit the US, I implemented certain rules for my company, February. Than I worked the supply chain, to have ample supplies for my company. Than we started the training of our employees, equipped them with the proper gear and trained them in its use.
Established a acceleration plan of the pandemic, adjusted every week.
One mistake we did , did not calculate that the competition in town would close. Adjusted the same day.
Basta.
The Federal response to this pandemic is a complete disaster, disgusting.
Just 15 cases, we have it under control, just the flue.
They dropped the ball and we will pay for it, US, in the US of A as we have never payed for any thing.
This will wipe out any gains the middle class has made after the 08 and 09 crisis and it got wiped out during that time.

Rural America will be wiped out. I live in rural America, my town if this will be over, will be a ghost town, with in 2 month, my town will be finished.
Hasta la Vista

 

Our medical experts were deceived by the Chinese as their statements clearly indicate.

All indicators now point to a leveling and decrease in the daily new case load. We should start reopening the economy on May first.

Rural America will be fine. In two months your town will still exist.

 

Propaganda Alert!

Ah, so now it's time to deflect blame. I suppose Fauci told Trump to call COVID-19 a "Democratic hoax."

I hope not, but it's shocking how unprepared rural areas are to deal with COVID-19. Many counties don't have a single ICU bed. Rural hospitals have been closing.

 

No need to comment.

 

Can’t make this up.

 

Good evening. Sorry I couldn't do my normal update last night. I am currently experiencing internet connectivity issues. I have a workaround for now, but hopefully I can get this thing sorted out on a more permanent basis soon. At any rate, I've added the numbers for the past couple days and have a breakdown for the biggest hotspot nations right now.


In new cases, there is a lot to be hopeful about. The US is now consistently in the single digits for a few days. Sweden likewise has gone down to single digits, although today's total of 726 nearly took them back out.

In active cases, Switzerland has continued to decline most days since their highs of 14K, and Germany has recently started going negative. Although on Germany, I must note that this is largely due to a significant number of recoveries on Apr 7 and 8th of 8K and 10K a piece. That compares with an average of some 2K recoveries per day up to that point dating back to around Mar 24. So this may represent a backlog being caught up to rather than a new trend in the immediate term. Still, it is good seeing any nation with active cases declining. Also, not highlighted, but Iran has likewise started going down from about 32.6K active cases.

On the downside, France continues to post massive numbers of new cases in a very lumpy fashion. Possibly more consolidation of nursing home data. Switzerland also had a very high number of new cases today relative to where they've been, so hopefully that is an anomaly rather than a new trend. Turkey also continues to post higher and higher numbers of new cases every day.



In the deaths, a lot more mixed. Italy managed to have their first total below 600 since Mar 19. Spain has had falling new death % almost every day for a week, and should only be in the single % growth for the foreseeable future. Switzerland as well has managed to recently break into single digits for new death %.

Outside of that though, a number of disappointing figures as of late. Mortality continues to rise across the board with Netherlands recently vaulting over 10% on that absolutely abysmal 234 deaths yesterday. Spain will be next to join Netherlands above 10%, along with Belgium, France, and it is looking highly likely Sweden will be joining them. Germany finally crossed 2% mortality, the US finally crossed 3%, as both nations continue to head higher.

Sweden has posted double digit death % growth as of late and has been moving up very quickly to higher mortality. The UK has also had some miserable days as of late, setting records each day for the highest number of new deaths yet in the country, and continuing back into double digit % growth rate in them. Belgium likewise has also seen its first days above 200 with that staggering 403 yesterday.

Iran has at least stabilized at around 6.18-6.19% mortality for now, while Turkey has stopped moving upward at around 2.15%. Turkey no longer moving up is more likely related to the sheer number of cases drowning out the new deaths (a lagging indicator) as of late.

Italy and Spain have clearly both peaked in new deaths per day as discussed earlier, but their still very high death rate weeks after peaking is disappointing to see. Italy is now 12 days out from their peak, and is still seeing some 58% deaths of that peak. If you take the earliest peak in China's daily deaths (Feb 12) and check 12 days later, they were still hitting the 70s, so some 48% of the peak. The following day down to 50's, so some 35%. Ideally by the end of the week, we will be talking about Italy deaths down to 300s if a similar pattern holds for them.

 

If you're not interested, don't comment.

 

When all else fails, try to laugh it off.

 

Many posts earlier, @Statistikhengst had invited us to post our comments about how the virus has personally affected us. I was at first reluctant to do so, as the effect on the virus on me personally hadn't been particularly noteworthy. But I am now facing a dilemma, related more to other issues than being affected by the Coronavirus directly. In any case, I will share my story (and I hope I don't end up regretting doing so).

First, as background. I basically grew up in the US and used to work there as a practicing attorney. For reasons I don't want to get into right now, I moved to Iran many years ago (time flies) -- and lived in Iran for 15+ years until recently. Last year, I purchased a villa in a vacation type resort in Turkey. A nice, scenic, place which was meant mostly as a second home. But we (mostly my wife and kids deciding for me) basically decided to stay in Turkey this year, especially since the US campaign of "maximum pressure" had a disproportionate effect on my line of work. I planned to use the opportunity from this forced 'early retirement" to work on writing a book I had planned a while back. A book dealing with Iranian history and politics. I was half way through the project, that the Coronavirus began becoming the focus of everything everywhere. While that might have been the perfect opportunity for me to work even more on my book, I have actually not written a word the past few weeks. Kids being home and not in school, my own focus and instincts telling me that whatever needs to be said about politics and history should wait to see how this saga with the Coronavirus unfolds, and a basic lack of interest in anything else besides the progress of this virus, has turned my focus elsewhere.

I have a big family, mostly on mom's side. On my mother's side, my family resembles somewhat the Greek family in the comedy I saw many times and enjoyed much, namely "My Big Fat Greek Wedding". I have dozens of family members in the US who are US citizens, most of whom live in Texas or California, some more American than Iranian but many who are Iranians simply living in the US. By and large, they are all well-to-do. Even those who I might have considered "losers" back in the day I was going to law school and becoming a lawyer, are rather successful businessmen (and certainly, financially, much better off than me). My closest cousins who I grew up with in the US include one who is a multi-millionaire with vast financial holdings and others who are only slightly less off comparatively, but doing more than alright. I also have a large family (again, mostly on my mom's side) living in Iran as well. They are mainly middle or upper middle class. More involved in business than academia or being professionals (unlike my father's side of the family, who -- much smaller in number -- are all professionals or working in academia). My own parents, both elderly, live part of the time in the US and part of it in Iran. They have been in Iran since the outbreak of this virus and that, naturally, has caused me to worry about them a lot. My sister lives and works in the US and hasn't been to Iran in ages. She is a lot more American than Iranian but, regardless, I am not on speaking terms with her, although I am updated about what she is up to through my parents.

None of my own family have so far been directly affected by the virus, meaning none are aware of having contracted it. Certainly, none have fallen so ill to require hospitalization. I am, of course, particularly worried about my mom and dad, who are elderly, but on my side of the family, so far, so good. On my wife's side of the family, all of whom live in Iran, things are pretty much the same, except she knows of a few people distantly related to some family members (or acquainted to them) who have contracted the virus -- and an in-law of a cousin who even died from it. Neither one of us had met that person, but others in her family of course had -- and that case actually was the first to make her family take added notice of the virus.

Now, going to my own dilemma: I had a lot of dental implants done for me in Iran, which have begun (partly my own fault, as I started smoking again recently) to give me trouble. The work done for me is insured for 10 years so I can have these dental implants fixed at no additional cost for me in Iran. I actually did that with one of these implants during the summer, when I went to Iran specifically for this purpose. But now, both because travel to Iran is closed, and considering the prevalence of the virus in Iran, I am not sure if it is the best time for me to go to Iran to have my dental implants fixed. And I am not sure I can do the work in Turkey either: Besides the fact that most dentists will not want to work on dental implants done by another dentist, they will be quite costly for me to fix here in Turkey, while I also have my general reluctance to do dental work in the middle of a pandemic.

Considering everything, I guess getting stuck without tooth isn't as bad as being on a ventilator, but that has been the most direct affect of the virus on me. With 'social distancing', and few others coming into contact with me, my real worry is how long my wife will be able to tolerate her husband having a lot of missing tooth That, not really advancing much on the book I was working on, and being even more worried than usual for my elderly parents, so far has been the most direct way the virus has touched my life.

 

Ok - you just earned yourself a spot in CA jail. I'll see you when the war is over and we can blame then.

 

My husband's alive-ness is far more important than the number of teeth he has.

 

Your husband is lucky to have you and my wife would say the same -- and I am lucky to have her too

 

Oh, I'm very interested, it's so intriguing. Very creative but a little sad.

TDS does weird things to people, maybe this is what LSD was like in the 60's.

 

I have lost 2 crowns. The first one I replaced with an implant. I think it was $6500 when it was all over with. I had bone added for a good base and by the time that was done I found I didn't really miss the tooth, but it could be seen with a big grin.
The second was further back and I am living without it. I find I do most of the chewing on the other side, but other than that it's no big deal.

 

The difference is that LSD is a high. TDS is a low.