Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Don't you hate it when they try to hide their screw ups with BS?

    This is not looking good so please stay safe.
     
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    This is interesting to me. My sister, in Illinois, is an advocate for special needs people, like brain damage, schizophrenia, lower IQ, etc. She has to drive to each client's facility for a visit X number of times per month, depending on the client/need. When this all started, she discussed setting up zoom/phone call visits instead of in person, with her boss. It took her company well over a week to get on that bus. My sister is mostly doing phone call visits, now. Her clients can call her anytime. (Which is getting more and more frequent as clients get lonelier and lonelier. )

    She does still have to show up for her crisis management shift at the hospital once/week, which is very scary for me.

    My sister's status is probably the most personally scary thing going on right now. The hospital she works in is in a college town. College kids are stupid, as we've all seen.
     
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    Yes, I think I'm relatively safe and have very high odds of surviving even if I get infected. It's the other people I worry about....like my boss who has been coughing for a couple of weeks....and all the thousands of vulnerable people who I don't know personally.

    As far as people in nursing homes and special needs centers, those people are completely at the mercy of the centers as to whether they get separated from those infected and those not, confined to their own rooms or not, etc. And to your point, staff is still going room to room even if the residents are locked in their rooms. We don't have any control on whether those staff are complying with distancing and staying home except as necessary for work and food.

    I think the grocery stores have probably become the most likely source of community spread, and having empty shelves just has people shopping more often, not less.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I forgot about people who need to be hand fed, have diapers changed, need someone in person to calm them down; all sorts of other person-to-person contact that so many people get and need on a daily basis, until I talked to my sister. My sister and my brother-in-law are distancing within the home, because she's in risky areas and he's in his 60's. It has to be difficult to be in the home with your partner, and you can't even hug.

    Please let this sh#t-show be over, soon.
     
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    Oh, I agree, safer, not safe. Right now, absolutely nothing is safe.
    But just to note, I used neither word.

    Nice to hear from you.
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Indeed, this somewhat unexpected phenomenon can lead to a very vicious cycle.
     
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    I was trying to explain to my boss yesterday that he has a lot more risk because his girlfriend works at a major bank which has refused to shut down the lobbies and go drive-through only. She probably deals face-to-face with several hundred people per day and he is indirectly exposed to those people when they live under the same roof and sleep together.

    He says his cough is allergies, and he does have serious allergies every spring, so I hope he is correct. He thinks I'm overly paranoid about the virus. From a purely selfish standpoint, if he gets sick, the business closes (permanently if he were to not survive).
     
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    Were you tested?
     
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    Yes, it was miserable when I was sick and could not hug my spouse. We have gone back to hugging now that I am over it and it makes both of us happy.
     
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    No, because my symptoms were mild and tests were in short supply. I will get tested once the antibody tests become available just to confirm.
     
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    The weekly unemployment numbers have come out:

    https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/202...ters-health-coronavirus-usa-unemployment.html

    Estimate is: between 5.25 and 9.30 MILLION unemployment claims last week. The median value is: 7.28 million

    So, we are looking at at least 16.5 million unemployed starting three weeks ago until today.

    Every 1.5 million = 1% additional unemploymer

    16.5 / 1.5 = 11%, added to the 3.4% unemployment we already had = 14.4% unemployment as of today. And remember, that's only if you take the median value. If you take the very lowest value, then we have 15 million newly unemployed. If you take the highest number, we have 19 million newly unemployed.

    We are now quite obviously and officially in the middle of a huge recession, heading straight into a great depression.

    The numbers speak for themselves.

    This happened because of COVID-19, is clear.
     
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    US national debt has risen an astronomical $12+ trillion in the last 6 months. This can not all be attributed to COVID 19.

    We stood at $22.7 trillion at the end of the last fiscal year (end of September 2019). The debt is now a staggering $35+ trillion.

    I have no idea how this will be managed. Hell, it's not even being talked about.
     
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    Yeah - it's on my mind. Problem is that you don't discuss insurance claims when the house is on fire and you're standing outside in your bathrobe with the dog and the kids. My main worry is small businesses. We're doing everything we can to order from local restaurants who are doing curb side pickup, but there's only so much that can be done.
     
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    Where are getting the data for $35 trillion?
     
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    duplicate deleted
     
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    US debt clock.

    https://www.usdebtclock.org/current-rates.html

    Edit: nevermind. Big oops on my part. It was set for 2024. Didn't know it could change time like that.
     
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    The underlying economy is strong. We need to get people back to work as quickly as possible. Everything will be fine.
     
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    So while I'm more of a fan of tracking virus data at a micro-level (city, local, region), I did get curious about the broader groupings of numbers, specifically cases per continent.

    Here's the bird's eye view from 100,000 feet, looking at the forests instead of the trees.

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    There are a lot of nice charts and maps on that link as well.

    https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/geographical-distribution-2019-ncov-cases
     
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    I for one am very happy you didn't have Covid-19, love those love ones we never know.
     
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    All but one of my symptoms matched the WHO definition of a Mild case of Covid19.

    But thanks for the good wishes.
     
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    More Trumper Trash. Someone says something negative about Trump and Trumpers like you attack the person criticizing Trump.

    How about defending Trump instead of launching personal attacks?
     
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    Yes, happy you have recovered. If you had the virus maybe you could be an antibody plasma donor. They have just started a clinical trial at Houston Methodist Hospital yesterday starting with 11 seriously ill Covid patients.
     
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    My town will be wiped out, it lives of tourism, Mesa Verde country. The effects are already coming in, revenues from sales tax have dropped like a rock and have forced the city council to do emergency cuts to its budget, 15-20% across the board. Our Hotels and Motels have closed and laid of all workers, because they are empty and all bookings have been canceled.

    The US government deceived itself, by down playing the danger from this virus and not being pro active and not having a strong pragmatic no nonsense respond.
     
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    You will be fine.
     

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