Transgender fighter Alana McLaughlin wins MMA debut

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  1. Kranes56

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    She won... because she is a good fighter. If you really think that lowly of professional athletes, then just say so. Because you end up having to argue against the data that trans athletes are just fine competing in sports.
     
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    So you believe strength is not a factor?
     
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    No. I really think that low of boys with ducks athletes, competing against girl athletes.
     
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    I’m including that as part of being a good fighter yes. And before you ask; no because testerotone blockers lower the amount of testertone in the body. Therefore are as physically strong testertone wise as a cis athlete. Even if you did want to look at testertone alone that’s a stupid way to look at strength because strength means more than simple ability to do something. Knowing when to hit and punch for example is part of a good fighter and matter greatly for the sport.
     
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    Then perhaps the issue is not understanding the basics of sports, because there aren’t any male athletes in this thread. Just a bunch of conservative keyboard warriors who think typing out how they don’t understand biology will mean prove they understand biology. Trans athletes are the gender they say they are. Simple as that.
     
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    Then she should have been disqualified like any other athlete using drugs/hormones to alter their body.
     
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    I don't even know where to begin other than they can take drugs that alter their body unless it gives them an unfair competitive advantage. Antidepressants level the playing field, not boost performance. Hormones can be used if it adheres to preventing an unfair competitive advantage.
     
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    The playing field is already leveled. This is a new issue that reveals how athletes gain an unfair advantage by changing their gender.
     
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    while this might be true, this fight does not in any way support that claim. the person that lost has never won a fight.
     
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    You can go two different ways with what you posted. I will respond to both.

    1.Will an athlete who suffers from depression be able to compete on equal level as an athlete who doesn't suffer from depression?
    2. I already responded to the second point.
     
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    I'm ok with a woman in transition fighting another woman.
     
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    Indeed, all those segregationists, misogynists who eons ago separated men from women in physical competitions did not know WTF they were doing or even talking about.

    YOU DO!!! :frustrated:

    Look. If there's a dick that hangs between the legs, that person is a male.

    Simple as that.
     
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    Beating up women... so brave.
     
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    I do like to hold myself above segregationists and misogynists yes. It's not very hard to because they don't usually know what they're talking about. For example? I once knew a man who proclaimed that "men will be men because men will always have their dicks". Then during battle against a terrible foe they shot his dick clean off. When asked if he was still a guy he tearfully said "please just get me some ice".

    Gender isn't the same thing as sex. A person's gender is best realized when it fits in with how they perceive the relationship between their body and mind. Simple as that.
     
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    He won because he can beat a woman.
     
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    Why don't we let 18 year old men play in Little League baseball if they identify as a 10 year old?
     
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    Staying on topic, allowing men to fight women in no way resembles equality. It is an unfair advantage and we can only agree or disagree with allowing them to fight. In some sports, like drag racing, it is not a factor.
     
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    It is the same and pretending to be the other gender does not make one a member of that gender. You will always be pretending.
     
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    He won because he was fighting a woman who cannot compete with him. By your measure why don't we get rid of ALL gender separate sports. No more PGA and LPGA nor more Men's and Women's tennis no more Men's and Women's basketball, no more Men's and Women's track and field events and on and on and on.........
     
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    Here's a topless shot of 'her' :roflol:

    Why anyone continues to support this sports trans farce is beyond me.

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    What about one that started transitioning like 2 weeks ago?
     
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    She won because she could beat another fighter. Use that framing.

    Because the sun is shining on them.

    Good thing there wasn't a man fighting against a woman. Once you're ready to accept that fact then we can move on from there.

    "If bigoted men are nothing without their dicks they don't deserve to have them"-a common expression in the trans community.

    I'm pretty okay with that. We have better measurements for competition anyways. But the real reason is because it has important political consequences for arguing against misogynists. How do you prove that women are physically strong enough to get into office? Easy, let them compete in sports.
     
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    @Kranes56 thanks for clearing this up
    If you dye your hair pink and shave your beard and change your name to a girl name then you are a girl
    I get it now!
    Thanks for that logic
     
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    Gender expression isn't the same thing as gender identity. Nice baiting tho.
     
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    No baiting. You keep insisting he is a she but clearly he isn’t
    I’ll accept trans people for their preferred gender if they put effort into it
    This is clearly a body builder with a pink haircut and shaved facial hair
     
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