Transgender male arrested for possessing child pornography and engaging in sex acts with dog

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  1. Black Irish

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    Having "sex" with a stuffed animal just because people think the person is "sick in the head" isn't illegal - having forced sex with a live animal is. The difference isn't that hard to understand.

    Or conversely, the opposite way of thinking could enable people who think they should be "free" to do anything, even things which overtly harm people or society, such as murdering and raping.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    This attitude is why we have such a divided country. There is no logical connection whatsoever between this sort of evil perversion and one's politics and it's a gratuitous insult to a whole group of people to say there is.

    Trump is an immoral pervert by his own admission, yet rightists support him. Can we assume you would have sex with a prostitute while your wife is delivering your own child for that reason?
     
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    There is a lot of evidence that the LGBT and transgender "cults" enables people with warped worldviews who believe that being prohibited from abusing children and animals is an "oppressive social construct imposed by bigoted societies".

    Groups like NAMBLA have been caught associated with LGBT rights groups as recent as the 1990s - such as in the "NAMBLA / IGLA controversy", and there have been various incidents of people who openly identify as "transgender" or with "LGBT rights" who are sympathetic to pedophilia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association#ILGA_controversy

    Not to mention the intentional grooming and coaching of young children who can't legally consent to sex into performing sex reassignment under the pretense of biology denialism, despite the loads of medical and scientific evidence against such quackery.
     
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    Misfits and lunatics.

    And we've decided to let them run the joint. Incredibly primitive .. like a tribe declaring the guy who eats his own feces, 'shaman'. Reflects our toddleresque need for everything to be naughty and entertaining. Our rejection of the routine and ordinary.
     
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    Thus is sort of the challenge when it comes to laws. Laws that prevent harm to people and society=awesome. Key word there for me has always been=harm. We want to prevent all harms(physical harm definitely, emotional harm? Eh, that gets into a grey area.)

    Which is why for example, in a previous thread you posted about these controversial subjects, I took a tackle at incest. The harm= medical costs of a born child to incest(though not all born children to incest will necessarily suffer a medical defect of sorts.). Just wear a condom/birth control(like any other sexual encounter), and the harm to the state disappears.

    At that point, it becomes 'judgmental' but who cares? Laws shouldn't be made to restrict offense. Laws should be made to restrict harm to people/society at large. If you're the most offensive person in the world but you're not hurt by it, who cares? It's why we haven't outlawed racism yet(give it time though lol.)
     
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    Murdering and raping violate the fundamental prohibition against doing anything requiring coercion or not having informed consent. Unless you are responsible for that person, like a child, you can't do that, and even then you can't seriously hurt somebody.
     
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    Animals cannot give consent.
     
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    By the same token, the converse is also about "preventing harm, right"? Under the idea that if not enough consistency and rationality is allotted to defining "harm" than it could lead to anarchy or mob rule and such.

    No, that's not entirely true, mitigation and elimination aren't quite the same thing, and the issues regarding the prurience of such matters aren't solely limited to the idea of children being born with physical defects.

    You seem to think that offense exists "in a vacuum", and while there are personally-subjective aspects of it, it isn't entirely separable from concerns about the specific types of actions which lead to the offenses to begin with.

    For example, most states have obscenity laws on the books, and obviously someone's subjective "offense" alone isn't enough to qualify something as such, however courts do have ways and methodologies of attempting to define obscenity on objective and subjective grounds.

    Racism which manifests itself in the form of criminal actions is illegal.
     
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    People will use any means to justify their evil but that does NOT automatically mean those things are evil themselves. The Universal test is simple and easy. Does the practice involve coercion? Is one side not giving informed consent?. If they are not that practice is prohibited. Otherwise; Do What Thou Wilt is the Whole of the Law.
     
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    I don't know if the dog was victimized, some will hump anything, even someones leg, but we can agree is sick and morally wrong

    that said, some cases, are more morally wrong them others, look at what this heterosexual did

    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna45142278

    "A Portland woman who bought a horse, killed it, gutted it and posed naked for photos inside the carcass broke no laws, Oregon authorities decided."
     
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    So, this person has child pornography, had sex with a dog....and everyone plays the Identitarianism game. Trying to pin this on a group that they are ideologically against.

    How about we all do something different. Say........EVERYONE AGREES THAT THIS IS A SICK PERSON THAT SHOULD BE IN MENTAL HOSPITAL!!!

    My god no wonder this country is so divided.
     
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    the title had the word transgender in it, if this was a heterosexual, would that be in the title too (that is the point, this has nothing to do with her being transgender)

    the ops post set the direction for this discussion, not the posters here
     
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    Why do you think I included the OP in my quoted post? IE: Duh. Can we state anything more obvious Captain Obvious?
     
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    not sure why you included mine then, as sounds like we agree then
     
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    Because you are just perpetuating the problem. You reacted with more of the same instead of calling it out or simply ignoring it and address the actual issue (a person having child porn and sex with a dog). But no, you had to get your licks in also with the heterosexual comments, hell you even mentioned Trump...again...in a thread that has nothing to do with Trump. All you're doing is contributing to the divide. You are a part of the problem.
     
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    Psst, BB. You left off the part about how they flagrantly throw around the word "morality" but accept a dude married three times, divorced twice, cheated on all three, had unprotected sex with a hooker and brags about entering ladies' dressing rooms and grabbing them <locker talk>.
     
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    quick question for the libs.. is it still bestiality is the person identifies as a dog?
     
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    If a word were left out of the title, it's possible some wannabe mod would have come in and posted a wall of text complaining about the violation of Rule 11 as a way of trying to get attention and upping his post count. So assuming the word heterosexual were in the title, it would have to have been here as well to prevent possible whining.

    Isn't the fact that there are really sick freaks like this out there more worth discussing than the title of the OP itself, though? Years ago, we had a dog run on campus and one of the kids grabbed it pantomiming humping it. He thought (at the time) it was funny. Granted, teenagers do strange things spur of the moment without any understanding of the consequences, but still, he saw a therapist for years and may still be seeing one for all I know. This guy - *shivers* - someone shoulda given him some kinda therapy many years ago because this is just off the charts.
     
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    Well as far as I know, that was all consensual, and Trump isn't the avatar of any movement that promotes toleration of such types of behavior.

    One could just say that Trump's "orientation" is polyamorous. so for all I know, the same movements that enable freaks like the OP would be more tolerant of Trump's behavior if he painted it as part of an "orientation" than the general population would to begin with.
     
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    None of that has anything to do with you pulling the "morality card" as if non-heterosexual and/or non-binary people are the ONLY ones that commit these type of crimes.
     
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    I argued that the the crimes are directly related to the type of elements which enable individuals to arbitrarily identify themselves as "transgender" or "non-binary". It's popular among that radical line of thinking to suggest that "morality" is some type of "oppressive or repressive" social construct - up to and including morality against performing sex acts on children.
     
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    Indeed he is mentally ill. The only problem would be if you try to conflate any mental illness related to the child and animal abuse with the transgenderism.
     
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    White male heterosexual. Let's be accurate.
     
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    They're not equitable, but often they go together like bread and butter, due to the aberrant worldviews which rationalize the invention of "identities" like "transgender" to begin with.

    As well as the documented history of pedophilia tolerance in "LGBT activism" groups - such as NAMBLA's acceptance by IGLA as recent as the 1990s, and other LGBT or trans-aligned individuals publishing books or other materials which are sympathetic to pedophilia, zoophilia, and so on.

    There's nothing about "being white, male, or heterosexual" which are just inborn traits which rationalizes such things.
     
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    Nor was that the claim. It was only pointed out that it was mischaracterization to conflate child and animal sexual abuse with transgenderism.
     
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