Transgender UPenn smashes TWO US women's records in weekend competition and finishes one race 38 sec

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  1. Steve N

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    When a specific athlete crushes the competition like this, then there’s more to it than just testosterone. We’re missing something because the odds of a T besting women the way they do is statistically low, yet they win at a higher rate than the average woman.

    How is it that no women become men and dominate men’s sports the way men dominate women’s sports? I truly believe that once a man, always a man. The mind my change but the physique does not.


    Full title.
    Fury as transgender UPenn swimmer, 22, who used to compete as a man smashes TWO US women's records in weekend competition and finishes one race 38 seconds ahead of her nearest rival


    • Lia Thomas, 22, smashed two U.S. swimming records at an Akron, Ohio contest
    • Thomas won the 1,650 freestyle in a record time of 15:59.71 beating her closest rival Anna Sofia Kalandaze by 38 seconds
    • She left rivals floundering in a 500 freestyle beating them by 14 seconds
    • Last month she competed in a women's swimming event between Princeton and Cornell and has regularly broken records as part of UPenn's team
    • Thomas previously competed for the school's men's team for three years before joining the women's team. Her last men's competition was in November 2019
    • Some have voiced their anger at her swimming success, claiming it to be 'unfair,' and many refused to refer to her as a woman
    • NCAA rules dictate any trans female athlete can take part in women's events if they have completed a year of testosterone suppression treatment



    • https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...poP2_Ahdx2DFTMPyd0-q0zSNoF1Tj2dBokuHMmzpaAXDE
     
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    So what really happened is Anna Sophia came in first place while the event organizers were allowing some dood to disrupt the competition.

    Congratulations Anna Sophia!! :applause::trophy::trophy::trophy::applause:
     
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    Wow… hell of a womanly achievement. I’m glad all those women will be be in second place to a transgender. Right where they belong


    Obviously this is a comment meant to entice thought not provocation.
     
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  4. Andrew Jackson

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    Exactly.

    No Biologically-Born Male should be allowed to compete in competitive sports against Biologicaly-Born Women. Period!

    A Total Travesty, which should NOT be allowed.

    The REAL Winner in her High School Days.
    DA CHAMP!


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    A Man demanded to compete against women and won. In my opinion these men who want to win at all costs and celebrate breaking records of women athletes are sociopaths.
     
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    Well now we have gender fluidity where you can identify as a man one minute and a woman the next. Theoretically we could have the best male athlete win his event, then switch his identity and win the woman's event. It would be hilarious, the same person gets the gold medal for both the men's and women's event.

    In any event, it looks like women's sports are coming to an end. The future looks to be men's sports and crossdressing men's sports. This is what happens when you put insane sociopaths who hate normal people into positions of power.
     
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    The NCAA really needs to reverse this policy on M to F Trans Athletes competing in Female Sports.

    This is outrageous.
    The only real way to go is to break the competiton down into 3 Divisions.
    Male/Female/Trans.
    IF Trans People want to compete, they should have their own Separate Division.

    I read a few other articles about this.
    And when you see things like "Katie Ledecky's Records Threatened", it is clear that this is making a complete mockery of the sport of Women's Swimming.
    In fact, if I was the President of the NCAA, I would immediately step in and disqualify Lia Thomas and declare Anna Sofia Kalandaze the Winner, and alter the placenent (up 1 position) of anybody who competed against Thomas.
     
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    They’re not touching any of Ledecky’s records at a professional level.
     
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    Some of the claims made in that article are misleading.

    The first US record was broken on Friday, December 3, when Thomas won the 500-yard freestyle with a time of 4:34:06. She raced to victory 14 seconds ahead of Kalandaze - the swimmer she beat by 38 seconds on Sunday.

    And then on Saturday, she won the 200 yard freestyle in 1:41:93 - seven seconds ahead of her nearest rival, giving her the fastest female US time ever for that event.

    ^Both of those claims are misleading (downright wrong).
    Neither of those times (even if ratified) were "U.S. Female Records".

    SWIMSWAM
    WOMEN’S NCAA DI RECORDS (SCY)
    50 FREE ABBEY
    WEITZEIL
    CAL 20.90 12/05/19
    100 FREE SIMONE
    MANUEL
    STAN 45.56 03/19/17
    200 FREE MISSY
    FRANKLIN
    CAL 1:39.10
    03/20/15
    500 FREE KATIE
    LEDECKY
    STAN 4:24.06
    03/16/17
    1000 FREE KATIE
    LEDECKY
    STAN 9:06.90 03/18/17
    1650 FREE KATIE
    LEDECKY
    STAN 15:03.31 11/18/1
     
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    In any event, this policy needs to be reversed.
    Because, at some point, IF any of Ledecky"s (or anyone else's) record are broken, the sanctioning body will have to just NOT ratify it.

    Example in the table above in Post #9:

    Missy Franklin has the 200 Yd Freestyle Record 1:39:10
    Lia Thomas swam 1:41:93

    So, what would have happened IF Thomas had swam under 1:39:10?

    I think that the sanctioning body should just fail to ratify the record.
    At least, that is how I (personally) would do it.
     
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    Way to go lefty la la land eliminating women competitors one at a time. #metoo
     
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    AJ, do M to F only compete against M to Fs? Where do the F to Ms fit in?
     
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    Good for him. Show those women what a real woman with a penis can do.
     
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    The mind??? :roflol:

    The mind does not change.
     
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    Eventually the only women's sports that will be left is sports where players can't get hurt by a much larger player.

    And probably ones where body strength and size does not matter as much.

    This is sad because it will greatly limit and narrow the types of (competitive) sports women will be able to play.

    I also foresee the elimination of women's leagues in many sports and far more women getting hurt when they try to play on the normal men's team and they get steamrolled over by larger players.
    Or women might be relegated to certain roles on these teams because of their smaller body size. (For example, a catcher in outfield far away from the main action of the game where they are unlikely to be clobbered)
     
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    AWESOME! What a Stupid F'n World we live in, where a BIG! Hairy Man can prance around in a Tutu and Ballet Slippers and claim he's a pretty little Female Ballet Dancer and the left will stand there in AWE! at how brave he is.
    Imagine a Biological Female MMA fighter having to enter the Octogon against this Monster
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    It will be amazing when all of the women athletes are transgenders... the competition will be excellent! Until then, those with the XX Chromosomes will have to understand that 1st place is not an option.
     
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    maybe next we can self-identify as handicapped so we can all compete in the paralympics. Bet we’d do pretty good there.
     
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    Perhaps when more Republicans are voted in office 2022 we will have the ability to protect women and women sports.
     
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    Bioligically-Born Females (aka F to M "Trans Male"") aren't physically strong enough to have the abillity to break records, Etc.
    That is why most people don't have a problem with F to M competiing in a Male sport.
    However, it is clear that M to F (aka "Trans Females") have a decided advantage and they ARE capable of Winning and Breaking Records.

    The problem comes in where people feel that the ability (to excel) among F to M is Equal to M to F.
    And, that is clearly NOT the case.

    Bottom line:
    NO Trans Athlete F to M or M to F should be able to compete in sports with those Biologically-Born M or F at birth.

    B/c if they allow for F to M in Male sports, then they have to allow it in M to F in Female sports.

    And, as we saw in the subject of the OP:

    That ISN'T FAIR to the Biologically-Born Females.


    In fact, the only TRUE Solution is to have:

    4 Divisions.
    2 Regular - Male/Female
    2 Trans - F to M/M to F

    Because (obviously) if there was only a singular "Trans" Division, it seems clear (that in most cases) M to F would (once again) have an advantage.
     
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    And now if a university wants to have a competitive women's sports program, they will have to try their best to recruit transgender M to F high school students. Male high school athletes who aren't quite good enough to get scholarships will be incentivized to "transition" when it could mean a full ride scholarship.

    Or, the university could have their second-tier male athletes claim to be female, and they can dominate the conference. It will be awesome when women's sports are dominated by M to Fs. Sorry, no room for XX on the women's team if we want to be competitive.
     
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    I agree
     
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    All I gotta say is, if a MAN can identify as a Woman, than a WHITE MAN ( Me! ) can identify as a BLACK FEMALE. When they start handing out those Reparation Checks, if I don't get one, there's going to be ONE HELL! of a Lawsuit.

    If Rachel Dolezal can do it, all us WHITEY'S can do it and get us some of that Reparations Money.
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