Treasonous US Media Ignores US Muslim Takeover by Terrorist-Prone Wahhabis

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  1. Merwen

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    While the negligent, and even treasonous, US media continues to do its best to thwart the efforts of the President elected by middle America to restore a sensible balance in the country, it continues to ignore the civilization-jarring actions of presidential administrations since the 80"s which allowed an Islamist plot to assure that the extremist Shia Wahhabi sect would dominate the Muslim religious establishment in America.

    Despite being aware of the above, the US Media has steadfastly refused to connect the dots between the massive amounts of foreign money coming into the US to support the building of Wahhabi Mosques and the enormous donations by Saudi Arabia to such things as the Clinton Foundation.

    I would like to ask-- Just what side is our media on? Are they willing to support the safety of US citizens and the territorial and cultural integrity of the US, or not?

    And if not, why not?

    "EDITOR’S NOTE: This is the text of testimony before the Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security on Thursday, June 26, 2003. Chairman Kyl, other distinguished members of the subcommittee, thank you for your invitation to appear here today. I come before this body to describe how adherents of Wahhabism, the most extreme, separatist, and violent form of Islam, and the official sect in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, have come to dominate Islam in the U.S. Islam is a fairly new participant at the “big table” of American religions. The Muslim community only became a significant element in our country’s life in the 1980s. Most “born Muslims,” as opposed to those who “converted” — a term Muslims avoid, preferring “new Muslims” — had historically been immigrants from Pakistan and India who followed traditional, peaceful, mainstream Islam. With the growth of the Islamic community in America, there was no “Islamic establishment” in the U.S. — in contrast with Britain, France, and Germany, the main Western countries with significant Islamic minorities. Historically, traditional scholars have been a buffer against extremism in Islam, and for various sociological and demographic reasons, American Islam lacked a stratum of such scholars. The Wahhabi ideological structure in Saudi Arabia perceived this as an opportunity to fill a gap — to gain dominance over an Islamic community in the West with immense potential for political and social influence. But the goals of this operation, which was largely successful, were multiple. First, to control a significant group of Muslim believers. Second, to use the Muslim community in the U.S. to pressure U.S. government and media, in the formulation of policy and in perceptions about Islam. This has included liaison meetings, “sensitivity” sessions and other public activities with high-level administration officials, including the FBI director, that we have seen since September 11. Third, to advance the overall Wahhabi agenda of “jihad against the world” — an extremist campaign to impose the Wahhabi dispensation on the global Islamic community, as well as to confront the other religions. This effort has included the establishment in the U.S. of a base for funding, recruitment, and strategic/tactical support of terror operations in the U.S. and abroad. Wahhabi-Saudi policy has always been two-faced: that is, at the same time as the Wahhabis preach hostility and violence against non-Wahhabi Muslims, they maintain a policy of alliance with Western military powers — first Britain, then the U.S. and France — to assure their control over the Arabian Peninsula. At the present time, Shia and other non-Wahhabi Muslim community leaders estimate that 80 percent of American mosques are under Wahhabi control. This does not mean 80 percent of American Muslims support Wahhabism, although the main Wahhabi ideological agency in America, the so-called Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) has claimed that some 70 percent of American Muslims want Wahhabi teaching in their mosques.1This is a claim we consider unfounded. Rather, Wahhabi control over mosques means control of property, buildings, appointment of imams, training of imams, content of preaching — including faxing of Friday sermons from Riyadh, Saudi Arabia — and of literature distributed in mosques and mosque bookstores, notices on bulletin boards, and organizational solicitation. Similar influence extends to prison and military chaplaincies, Islamic elementary and secondary schools (academies), college campus activity, endowment of academic chairs and programs in Middle East studies, and most notoriously, charities ostensibly helping Muslims abroad, many of which have been linked to or designated as sponsors of terrorism. The main organizations that have carried out this campaign are the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), which originated in the Muslim Students’ Association of the U.S. and Canada (MSA), and CAIR. Support activities have been provided by the American Muslim Council (AMC), the American Muslim Alliance (AMA), the Muslim American Society (MAS), the Graduate School of Islamic and Social Sciences, its sister body the International Institute of Islamic Thought, and a number of related groups that I have called “the Wahhabi lobby.” ISNA operates at least 324 mosques in the U.S. through the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT). These groups operate as an interlocking directorate. Both ISNA and CAIR, in particular, maintain open and close relations with the Saudi government — a unique situation, in that no other foreign government directly uses religion as a cover for its political activities in the U.S. For example, notwithstanding support by the American Jewish community for the state of Israel, the government of Israel does not intervene in synagogue life or the activities of rabbinical or related religious bodies in America. According to saudiembassy.net, the official website of the Saudi government, CAIR received $250,000 from the Jeddah-based Islamic Development Bank, an official Saudi financial institution, in 1999, for the purchase of land in Washington, D.C., to construct a headquarters facility.2 In a particularly disturbing case, the Islamic Development Bank also granted US$295,000 to the Masjid Bilal Islamic Center, for the construction of the Bilal Islamic Primary and Secondary School in California, in 1999.3 Hassan Akbar, an American Muslim presently charged with a fatal attack on his fellow soldiers in Kuwait during the Iraq intervention, was affiliated with this institution. In addition, the previously mentioned official website of the Saudi government reported a donation in 1995 of $4 million for the construction of a mosque complex in Los Angeles, ... .... ..."


    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/207366/wahhabism-islam-us-stephen-schwartz
     
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  2. Just_a_Citizen

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    Quite a read. I have much research to do indeed.

    As far as media coverage or investigations, to just make a quick observatory comment, yeah you'd think they'd have been all over this... For at least a decade.
     
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    And yet, when we finally get in a President that cares enough about the US and its stability to confront the danger here, all he gets from the same negligent media is harassment. Do the Saudis own our media now, too?
     
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    I'm sure they have more than a few shekels (see what I did there?) riding on many of the Network Horses.

    Win, Place or Show, Covered.
     
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    Wow. Just wow!
     
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    alright calm down, this article is from 2003, so I'd say its a bit out of date, and other than a few isolated incidents, I haven't seen any wahhabi insurrection since '03
     
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    Well, it would certainly be interesting to see if that 80% figure has gone down at all in the last 15 years. My gut feeling is that it hasn't. Anyone have information either way?
     
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    Tweetboy is doing it to himself. You're basically objecting to the reporting of news.
     
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    In this thread, I'm objecting to the willful neglect of a significant cultural discussion the American media should have been leading for years.
     
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    Why are we hearing nothing of this from the media?

    Why have we been hearing nothing of this from our media?

    When did our media totally cease being an advocate for our country, our values, and our way of life, not to mention our safety?
     
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    Three excellent questions.
     
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    Saudi Arabia has always been a theocracy, and for that reason when I became aware of its theocratic existence(the Saudis for example have a historic connection to the Bushes) I then knew we had to distance ourselves from this so-called "ally", but I didn't know how deep the penetration has gotten, to the extent that they have control over the Imams and the Mosques. While most reject "those teachings", it'll only be a matter of time before more convert, and we will not have the real-time information to stop them.

    It's time to define that the First Amendment only protects secular religion, and those not secular(like Wahabism) pose an existential threat to the US.
     
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    There is no such thing as a Shia Wahhabi............
     
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    Yeah, everyone has been involved in a massive conspiracy for 35 years. :rolleyes:
     
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    Don't ruin a perfectly good conspiracy theory with facts. :mad:

    This reminds me of the great Catholic-Muslim invasion of the 1960s. They killed Kennedy.

    Cruz's father led the movement in Cuba.
     
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    And you stopped taking your medications, when?
     
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    Thank you for the clarification--after checking five or six sources I think I finally have it:

    The Sunnis are the largest group in Islam, and include the strictly conservative Salafis, who themselves include the Wahhabis...and together they dominate Saudi Arabia.

    [The Shia, also called Shiites for some grammatical reason that escapes me, since Shia also seems plural to me--dominate Iran.]


    My vocabulary confusion is pretty typical in the West, where the nebulous character of Islam has historically been seen through a glass darkly, to our disadvantage. It does nothing to lessen my point that SA has for some time now been enabling the control of other Muslims and the colonization of the US by intolerant bigots whose hatred of other Muslim denominations is only outdone by their loathing of non-Muslims...and that CAIR is one of the major tools being used in this operation.
     
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    I wouldn't go so far as to call it a conspiracy, but Merwen has a point: the press folks have given this zero coverage. And as is pointed out more and more often these days, one of the biggest problems with the press today is not necessarily their coverage, but their omissions. That is where much of the built in bias manifests itself. I think he raises a very good point...
     
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    The press doesn't cover an unsubstantiated Fever Swamp report that "Bigfoot says 1+1=3".

    RW take = "They aren't covering this 'serious' story".

    The RW needs to get a grip and stop defending the indefensible.

    Even those who understand Trump Snowflake Stockholm Syndrome TS3 are mystified.
     
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    If you bothered to read the OP it was testimony before a Congressional committee:

    "This is the text of testimony before the Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security on Thursday, June 26, 2003. "
     
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    he main supporter of Wahhabism is Saudi Arabia. They spend a lot of money to support schools and mosque around the world that teach it.

    Do not give Trump a pass on this. Just like the rest of the politicians in the US they remain silent about the threat Saudi Arabia is. There is a reason you see Saudi Arabian citizens link when many terrorist acts. Yet Trump has not mentioned anything or include Saudi Arabia in the ban on travel.

    Same reason Saudi Arabia has not been mentioned in regards to this by Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush or Obama.
     
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    I have been guessing they are too powerful to confront before the T has his own party and congress in line. I'm beginning to think the dominant media is hopeless and will just have to be ignored and worked around in some way..
     
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    Muslim Brotherhood has been outlawed in KSA since the early 1970s... which includes CAIR.
     
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    I lived around Wahhabis for two decades.. They aren't terrorists.
     
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    Then why is CAIR allowed free reign in the US? Haven't the Saudis bothered to explain the facts of life to the US government?
     

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