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Treasury Department says Ukrainian linked to Rudy Giuliani is 'Russian agent'

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    The man the Treasury Department called "an active Russian agent for over a decade," met with President Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani to dig up dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tre...rudy-giuliani-russian-agent/story?id=72942083

    So the Trump admin says Rudy is getting dirt on Joe from Russia. Now Rudy claims he’s got..,dirt on Joe!
    Just an amazing coincidence I’m sure!
    Once again, this is from the trump administration!
     
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    And there in a nutshell is this whole thing
     
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  3. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Seems obvious to anyone with a shred of common sense.
     
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    IMHO, President Trump and his cadre of psychophants are not really interested in getting to the bottom of this. They know it is nonesense. They simply want the spectre of an investigation to be in voters heads as they head to the ballot.

    It is just like his "perfect" call to Ukraine. He specifically mentioned wanting the investigation announced on the global stage...because we all know the best way to catch a potential crook is to make a public announcement of the investigation to warn them. (Insert sarcasm)
     
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    Let's be clear, this information doesn't come from the Russian government, but an individual with ties to Russia(whose predominately Ukrainian). Those two countries have been linked since Ukraine was an USSR State.

    Nothing to do with Crossfire Hurricane "Muh Russia", any corruption of Ukraine's will almost certainly be linked to Moscow.
     
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  6. The Mello Guy

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    A Russian agent
     
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    Not everyone with Russian ties is a "Russian Agent", Putin doesn't have reaches that deep.
     
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    The story says Russian agent lol
     
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    The story says 'Member of the Ukrainian Parliament' to be accurate, unlike ABC.
     
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    They are showing everyone who was on the fence about their involvement with Russia that it was true lol
     
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    So if this is true doesn't it retroactively make the first Russia collusion story way more plausible?
     
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    Maybe you should publish your own findings on Ukraine :), because you don't want to accept what is the article. !!!
     
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    I literally quoted the article, just by using the actual facts rather than the sensationalism. The individual wasn't a 'Russian asset', he was a member of the Ukrainian government.
     
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    No the article clearly states, in black and white, he is a good Russian agent. Your excuse is ridiculous, like I said, publish your own findings instead of rewording someone else's.
     
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    You don't have to be Russian to be a Russian agent.

    Plus, he graduated from the KGB school, in Moscow.
     
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    "Andrii Derkach, a member of the Ukrainian Parliament"

    Whether you like it or not, other people can click the link and see that information is there. It said "other Russian agents", meaning that others involved were Russian agents, not Derkach specifically.
     
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    Yep. His real job is Russian intelligence.
     
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    How about the Treasury Dept's definition then:

    "Treasury designated Andrii Derkach (Derkach) pursuant to Executive Order (E.O.) 13848 for his efforts to
    influence the 2020 U.S. presidential election. Derkach, a Member of the Ukrainian Parliament, has been an
    active Russian agent for over a decade, maintaining close connections with the Russian Intelligence Services."
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    His cadre of sycophants ARE the bottom of this
     
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    Derkach specifically. yes

    And it has been reported for quite some time

    Rudy's been cooking this for for time.

    Amazing how sloppy it is
     
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    As I said earlier, Russia and Ukraine are basically like cousins, feuding little cousins. So the Ukrainian-Russian link isn't surprising, but that doesn't mean the intel is bad or corrupted by Putin. If we want to bring up bad memories, the Russians warned us about the Boston Marathon bombers, we didn't listen.
     
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    WTF?

    They are enemies. And Rudy is working on the Russian side
     
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    I'm more aware of the geopolitics of Russia-Ukraine then you. Ukraine is basically a small State that European powers fought over for the last 150+ years.
     
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    So why did the trump admin revoke his passport and say he’s pushing anti Biden BS From Russia
     
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    Apparently the FBI has the laptop and it's not disinformation. Sounds like it's something little goodie too shoes should answer, we would wanna know how co-opted he is by the Chinese right?
     
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