Trump’s Most Influential White Nationalist Troll Is A Middlebury Grad Who Lives In Manhattan

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  1. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    How do you know?

    A majority of whites voted for Trump. That seems to suffice for Derido to brand someone a white supremacist.

    What you call ignorance seems to be to simply be self-interest.
     
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    so you believe Trump is a white supremacist and voting for him showed support for white supremacist ideology?

    there are a lot of Progressives who agree with you.
     
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    Yes, I know. But you seem to disagree.

    Whether or not Trump or anyone else is properly labeled a white supremacist I will leave to you Progressives to hash out.

    My point is the Progressive agenda of putting white people down (and calling them white supremacists) is going to result in more Trump supporters among white people and suggest to them that white supremacy is not so bad.
     
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    That's your problem not my problem.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    do you believe Trump is a white supremacist and voting for him showed support for white supremacist ideology?
     
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    Definitely.
     
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    i agree.

    trump is a white supremacist pig and the last gasp of the ignorant and failed ideology of white supremacy, and many of his voters voted for him because they want the USA to be a white supremacist nation.

    they will be defeated on the battlefield of the voting booth...or other if neccessary
     
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    what white supremacist goals do you think his white supremacist voters wanted to see achieved?
     
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    Well, then, you also have to agree that most whites are white supremacists, as a majority of them voted for trump.
    That's just talk. White supremacy seems to be getting more and more popular here and in Europe.
     
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    End to illegal immigration. Deportation of current illegal immigrants. End to affirmative action. Muslim travel ban.

    You know. The stuff he campaigned on.
     
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    what about ending the Civil Rights Act? did you want that to?

    how about making immigration law favor white immigrants?
     
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    Me, personally? No. There is no great advantage gained. I cannot speak for others, but I've never seen this idea bruited in the section of the RW fever swamp I inhabit.

    Certainly!
     
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    Your speculative math is wrong because racist white supremacists are NOT a majority of white people.

    There are just under 200 million whites in America and 138 million people voted in 2016 of which 70% were white meaning that 96 million whites voted in total. Your beloved BLOTUS only received 58% of that 96 million which comes to around 56 million out of 200 million which is a mere 28% of the white population.

    So your math is off by over 100%.

    On top of that your BLOTUS has LOST a great deal of support since the election so obviously nowhere near all 56 million were white supremacists.

    Now let's look at the actual percent that is likely to be white supremacist amongst that subset of the white population.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...emacy-its-much-bigger/?utm_term=.bcc7e875ee5a

    So using that yardstick the MOST that would be racist white supremacists out of that 28% of the population that voted for your BLOTUS would be 20% since 80% are opposed to organizations like the KKK. 20% of 28% is a paltry 5.6% of the white population or just over 11 million.

    The math never lies so to classify all BLOTUS supporters as racist white supremacists is disingenuous. The REALITY is less than 12 million and that would be less than 4% of the population as a whole.
     
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    I don't support the KKK, yet I am a white supremacist. Heck, I didn't even vote for Trump, and yet I'm a white supremacist.

    Even if Trump has lost support (of which I am not certain), it doesn't mean that his voters changed their minds about white supremacy.

    Of the whites who voted, the majority voted for Trump. The default assumption is that the whites who didn't vote split the same way as those who did. So my math holds up.

    Look, I went with your assertion that Trump supporters are white supremacists. Ronstar said that this assertion is common among Trump supporters. Now, all of a sudden, you want to change the parameters. I can only assume you don't mind contradicting yourself if you get to say I'm wrong at the same time.

    Your article states that white identified voters voted for Trump. In that case my original point still holds up. As Democrats disparage white people for being white, more and more of them will vote for Trump or Trump-like candidates. This is called polarization and both parties are increasingly following this strategy.
     
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    Neither did I?!
     
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    Nope!

    White supremacists were MOTIVATED to vote for their racist candidate so it is a fallacy to assume that those whites who did not vote are also white supremacists.

    If you look at the 2016 primaries where the BLOTUS ended up with 14 million votes that is way closer to the 11 million that the math reveals.

    Furthermore white supremacists would not be turning against their BLOTUS either and his abysmal approval poll numbers reflect that to be case too. Note that biased Rasmussen ONLY polls actual voters rather than the nation as a whole and that is skewing the BLOTUS's approval rating to higher than it should actually be.

    Finally that you are disingenuously taking what I said out of context and disparaging tens of millions of white Americans says volumes when it comes to desperation.

    It is NOT the Dems who are disparaging whites but rather your BLOTUS who is denigrating them by lying that "white supremacists are good people" when they are actually the scum of the earth who endorse crimes against humanity.
     
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    At least his name's not Brad - Brad the grad? :roll: :blankstare:
     
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    But neither were they motivated to vote against him. So they must not be so upset by white supremacy.

    I don't see why you should say that. Perhaps they are unhappy he is not white supremacist for their taste.

    Oh, it is quite ingenuously. You said that Trump supporters were white supremacist. Now that I agree with you, you are upset for some reason.

    I could you stop saying "speaks volumes?" It is a lazy way of saying nothing at all.

    And Progressives claim daily that white people are responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened in history. You do it yourself.

    Why are Black people criminals? White people. Why is Africa a sh*thole? White people. I could go on and on.

    You can hardly argue that all the evil in this world is caused by white supremacy and then claim there are hardly any white supremacists around. Or I guess you can. But it doesn't look very good to thoughtful people.
     
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    What a massive pile of utter gibberish!

    In fact it is so bizarre as to be virtually incomprehensible.

    Even your allegations make no sense.

    FTR it is not necessary to elaborate on the term "says volumes" because it actually explains a lot without the need to specify it.

    At this point it is best to just state that none of the prating above is even worthy of a response.
     
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    It's not white supremacy, it's white backlash for lack of a better term. Clinton lost to one of the worst candidates in history for two simple reasons, economics and whites constantly being called racists and bigots and personally responsible for slavery(even though most Americans are descendants of the second wave of immigration after slavery ended) for the last 8+ years. If you disagreed with Obama people like Chris Matthews said it couldn't possible be because of the lagging economic performance or policy issues, no it was because you were racist.

    Trump won solely because the left overplayed the racism card and it drove people towards Trump and away from the Democrat party. Trump who is clearly a serial misogynist even managed to win the majority of white women which hasn't happened in....forever. That is how toxic blaming whites for every problem has become in the Democrat party.
     
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    Backed you into a corner again and got the same reaction. Claiming that my observations are not worthy of a response.

    That "says volumes," alright.

    i.e. you can't defend your silly position, so you go off in a huff.
     
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    Wrong!

    It is not possible to carry on a civil discussion without coherent fact based statements.

    Given that they have not been provided there is nothing further to be gained by attempting to unravel gibberish.
     
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    And they are doubling down on the strategy!

    My contention is that white people, being accused of racism and white supremacy for the slightest infraction will decide they might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb and embrace those positions.

    Especially when they are told their "white ally" position is no longer wanted.
     
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    I think it has all been a plan from the start. It is working. Soon you will get your digital ID chip, and an AI brain normalcy regulator chip and all the world history that you remember or learned about, will be erased from your memory.

    Those of you deemed by this NWO to be relevant, ..you will live in an alternate reality, half biological, half computerized slave, and you will be happy, and content. Any skeptical thoughts you may have will be neutralized by the AI chip in your brain, plus the nano bots in your bloodstream and the injections of micro LSD hybrid drugs.

    This is the utopia waiting for you millennials.. Enjoy the last moments of any rational self awareness of your existence that you now currently understand, because soon, your generation will likely be reduced to a minimal population that some Globalist elitist group of richest 1% have calculated using their super D Wave computer AI.
     
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