Trump accuses FBI agents of treason

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  1. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Totally incorrect and I can only assume you didn't listen to what he said, Trump did not say the noise causes cancer, his exact words where and rather sarcastically as well, "they said the noise causes cancer," referring to a comment stated by someone else.

    But never let facts get in the way of your hatred of Trump.
     
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    Well...

    I wouldn't make that claim.

    However, when compared to his opposition...
     
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    We have kept a lot of dictators in charge because it has suited us and their oil tastes good.
    We disbanded the Iraqi army for whatever the reason and it was a bad call.
    We cannot walk into a country and say "poof" you are now a democracy. Democracy doesn't work for all countries. Look at Russia.
    When was Afganistan liberated
    What Donald Rumsfeld Knew We Didn't Know About Iraq - Politico

    https://www.politico.com/.../01/iraq-war-wmds-donald-rumsfeld-new-report-213530

    No, really, George W. Bush lied about WMDs
    By Dylan Matthews@dylanmattdylan@vox.com Jul 9, 2016, 10:00am EDT
     
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    And what exactly is the truth as you understand it?
     
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    Never mind that people believe that they did find that much chemical ordinance. The first Iraq war was a lie and the 2nd war much more than a lie. Hussein was no threat to the US. They were a threat to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. That is why we went to war and to get our hands on their oil, just like now in Venezuela- more lies. All we have done in the last 30 years is make everyone who had a family member die due to our interference in their politics hate us for the next 50 years.
     
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    Explain your question, truth of what?
     
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    Trump always attributes statements to somebody else.
     
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    My comments about the length of past investigations.
     
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    In other words your previous claim that he made the statement and must be senile is false, because you never bothered to actually listen to the entire statement, just the part that fit's you anti-Trump narrative.

    Bravo, nice way to shoot yourself in the foot and blow away your credibility.
     
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    Just what investigations are you speaking of, stop being evasive and put it all on the table.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    Again, Trump always attributes statements to others to gain credence. "Everybody knows", "Somebody said", "I heard that".
    Listen to him speak and you will understand exactly what I am referring to. Talk about credibility! Just continue to make excuses for his behavior. He is against wind power probably for the dollars that he is not realizing. 'Somebody said that the noise causes cancer'? He says this sort of sht all the time.
     
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    I put it "on the table" in the post that you are questioning. Read it.
     
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    glad to hear it
     
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    I don't see what you are talking about, so how and why do you expect me to answer such a question.

    Once again what do you want me to comment as what the actual truth of what your asking is all about.

    Stop dodging the question or put a lid on it and move on.

    In other words ask the actual question and I will try to answer it.
     
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    I wrote that the Benghazi and Bill Clinton investigations took much longer than the Mueller investigation and I mentioned the number of years for each. If you want to know what the subject matter of the post was, I don't remember.
     
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    He is one.
     
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    Trump IS an idiot. But no more so than Bill or Hillary Clinton. How EXACTLY is he guilty of treason?
     
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    No we don't know but was it better to disband the army and anger the Sunni minority or not do it and outrage the Shia majority (backed by Iran)?.
     
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    The Clintons are not idiots. They are a lot of things, but 'idiot' isn't one of them.
     
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    Trump is much more of a Idiot then any other President we have seen in our lifetimes

    I do not think Trump or the FBI is guilty of treason, that is my point
     
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    Ok so they are criminal idiots, is that better now?
     
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    Na the dumbest president we ever had was Jimmy Carter, Trump is Mensa material compared to him.
     
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    Trump even beats Carter, and Trump advertises how idiotic he is on Twitter for the world to see.. Sad!
     
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    True and still do to this day. People actually welcomed the Iranian revolution because they hoped it would be a liberal Iran. People hoped the same with the Iraq liberation but given the horror of the insurgency and failure of the Arab Spring I suspect any Western backed oil producing dictators can think themselves very safe at the moment.

    We don't know if disbanding the Iraqi army was a good call or not, to not have done so risked angering the Shia majority and things could have been even worse. Afghanistan was liberated in 2001, the Taliban kicked out. The current regime is no shining beacon of democracy but better than what preceded it.

    The Politico article is just a sensationalist opinion piece masquerading as news. All it says is that Rumsfeld read a report that said the case for WMDs MIGHT not be as strong as others were saying and there was no way of knowing for certain. As the article stated Rumsfeld then checked with other sources and they were more sure. It means nothing, should he have believed one report and ignored all the others?

    The other link doesn't work although it did lead me to this article which refutes it;

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ong-george-w-bush-really-didnt-lie-about-wmds
     
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    Carter was a smart guy but naïve, not the guy to fight the cold war.
     

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