Trump admin OKs torturing children. En masse.

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  1. doombug

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    How do you know?
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is what is called a refugee interview.
     
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    Hate to break it to you, but we have trials for that. We don't, and shouldn't, automatically eject asylum seekers and their children without a judge ruling on it first.
     
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    The Trump administration dragged them into this . . . after, of course, lying and blaming it on the Democrats.
     
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    In the country of their origin or thru proper immigration channels.
     
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    Go ahead and tell me how government separated no children from their parents during your Messiah's tenure.

    go on.
     
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    For many of these people, proper immigration channels do not exist. The closest they have is committing the misdemeanor of crossing the border illegally and turning themselves in to border enforcement for their misdemeanor in order to to await trial to determine whether or not their claims of a need of asylum are legitimate. Which is what most of these people are doing.
     
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    The separation policy is a policy put in place by the current administration. And I've called for Obama's impeachment, so you can quit with the (frankly desperate) whataboutism. But feel free to post images of kids who crossed the border unaccompanied and make-believe it is the same thing. You'd be far from the first.
     
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    As sad as this situation is & as much as I detest Trumps political game... what do you think happens to any parent & legal citizen who breaks the law? They are separated from their children. Its always traumatic for the kids and they often end up in equally bad or worse foster care.
     
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    It's the law. The Democrats are the ones bringing it up and trying to make an issue out of it.
     
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    We do not make it a habit of separating families when the parent is accused of a misdemeanor, has been cooperating with law enforcement (even turning themselves in for their misdemeanor) and are awaiting trial for their claim that they committed said misdemeanor out of a concern for the safety of themselves and their children. In any situation where we are doing this, we should stop.
     
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    Not too hard.
     
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    Quote the law that requires this separation. Trump himself made an issue of it, Tweeting about it and calling the practice terrible . . . while lying and saying that the Democrats had put it in place because the "man" has no integrity whatsoever.
     
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    These people are largely coming to appeal for refugee status. Stop pretending you don't know that.
     
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    Which is what happens when the dangers they face by staying in place are even worse than the dangers of seeking asylum.
     
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    You aren't making any sense :( Lemme guess you're one of those Second Wednesday of the month'rs and you're all stocked up :)
     
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    thousands of parents voluntarily split up their families when they sent their kids off to sneak over US borders during your Messiah's tenure. leftists shed not a single crocodile tear....
     
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    Then take it up with the leftists and their Messiah. Meanwhile, those kids were not taken from their family by our government, so they aren't relevant to this conversation. They are yet another attempt to change the subject. Let me guess, your next "response" will continue to try to dodge the actual details of the discussion and will be another lame attempt at lib-baiting? Just a hunch.
     
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    The Parents are arrested for entering our country illegally. But the children can't be locked up with them. So they are put into temporary care while their Parents await trial or a hearing. After determination they are reunited and either removed or allowed to stay. It's pretty basic stuff. Oh and every year there are three quarters of a million American children separated from their Parents and put into the foster system with strangers. So this is not something strange or sinister. It has been the standard for the last 25-100 years. Now who put the children in this situation? Their Parents, that's who.
     
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    of course they are relevant... the entire BS narrative spewing forth from the virtue signaling left is how 'inhumane' it is for families* to be split up...

    * not families of US citizens, mind you, ONLY illegals' families.
     
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    That's right. They are criminals awaiting trial. We don't lock up children with their Parents. It's just common sense.
     
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    I was thinking of felonies, drug charges ect...
    Werent these kids taken from parents illegally crossing the boarder and already denied asylum?
     
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    Thus abusing our very generous political asylum program. Taking spots from bona fide refugees.
     
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    Sounds like your outrage must be misplaced, just a bit.
     
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    That's simply false. Most people coming here are economic migrants, not refugees.

    "Refugees make up a relatively small percentage of annual immigration to the U.S. (see Rosemary Jenks' chart). Most immigrants (including most illegal immigrants) are economic migrants; relatively poor by our standards, but not facing life or death situations."
    https://www.numbersusa.com/content/...h-enforcement/legal-immigration/refugees.html

    A high percentage of those claiming refugee status are lying.

    "For decades, large percentages of refugees have entered on the basis of fraud or without certification as internationally recognized special needs refugees (the kind that are supposed to be considered for resettlement instead of repatriation)."
    https://www.numbersusa.com/content/...h-enforcement/legal-immigration/refugees.html
     

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