Trump Admin to Send Border Patrol Special Ops on Raids in Sanctuary Cities

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  1. ArchStanton

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    You haven't and the SC has never heard a case whereby both parents were illegal aliens. The Wong Kim Ark case doesn't apply.

    Pursuant to the Amendment at Section V, Congress can enforce the Amendment through legislation. In other words, they can define "subject to the jurisdiction thereof"........and make every anchor baby illegal. Just being born here is only half of the equation. There is another prong that must be satisfied.
     
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    Oh man I hope for the sake of his children he doesn’t go on the run and become a fugitive. That’s no way to live your life
     
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    Of course it applies.

    That was settled in plyler v doe. “Subject to the jurisdiction” simply means presence inside US borders.
     
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    That is a gray area. They're not required to aid federal law enforcement, , however they can't obstruct either. In some cases that is what they have done. Ie: people know when and where ICE raids are. that is in way obstruction. So to say no crime hasn't been committed..... that isn't 100% true. They can also file suit. Which is a different animal then criminal.
     
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    And then they go to jail for aiding and abiding.
     
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    It’s no different than announcing a DUI checkpoint.
     
  7. US Conservative

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    AG Barr does not feel the same way.

    Dems brought whats coming on themselves.
     
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    Nah just may have to move someplace else and he’ll have to lay low.
     
  9. The Mello Guy

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    Hahha yah ok. Like they haven’t been through this before.
     
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    ???? how do you see a DUI checkpoint and a ICE raid being the same thing?
     
  11. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Also-I want to see one of these guys at EVERY polling place.

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  12. a better world

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    Your choice: I'll let you look into the cost in blood and treasure for the US, since 1946 , in its self-appointed role of international policeman.
     
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    So go in the run and be a fugitive.
     
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    You're right, a normal Sanctuary city/state is one that does not help the federal government in enforcing immigration laws. However while they do not have to enforce federal laws, they also may not hinder it. So, if a politician obtains information due to their position that there is going to be a raid in the area by ICE, and then tells the whole world about it, they are hindering enforcement of federal law. Now, someone, I think it was you? Tried to liken them telling the whole world about the coming raid to a DUI check point. That is a false equivalency. There are no laws against telling people about a DUI check point. There is however laws against aiding illegal aliens. And if a politician, who by virtue of their position received information about a coming raid went and blabbed to the world about it in order to warn illegal aliens so that they may hide, then they are aiding illegal aliens. And that is against the law. It is a felony. Additionally it can be considered "harboring" illegal aliens, which again, is illegal and a felony. If convicted then that is a fine and up to 5 years in prison.

    And along those lines sanctuary cities have enacted laws that aid illegal aliens. For example allowing them to get a drivers license is aiding them in getting to work, which is also illegal for an illegal alien to do, and illegal for anyone to help with.

    And then there are places like California who has made it against the law for any employer or lawyer, doctor etc etc to tell ICE about an illegal alien. Last I knew not all lawyers or doctors work for the government. Most employers certainly are not government agents. That too is hindering federal law enforcement. It is also aiding illegal aliens in keeping their jobs...which is illegal for them to have in the US.

    Additionally, passing laws that allow illegal aliens to get drivers licenses, healthcare paid for by the government, and in some small locations allow them to vote in local elections, encourages more illegal aliens to come. Encouraging illegal aliens to come to the US is illegal. A felony.
     
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    I want the US to get the hell out of the UN and NATO, the UN to get the hell out of the US, and all US troops to be brought home with the exception of embassy US Marines.

    It is a terrible mistake to become entangled in foreign treaties and to keep standing armies outside of this country.

    The USA never should have entered WWI at all, or WWII in Europe. Only Japan attacked the USA.
     
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    double post
     
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    Illegals aren't the ones clammoring for fully armed soldiers in our homes. That would be Trumpsters who chant "build that wall!"

    Speaking of which: do you even know how much wall is actually being built? So far, Trump has managed to replace 99 miles of existing fencing, and built one mile of new fencing. One. In three years. All talk, no action, as he's always been. Promises kept, my big American butt. :blahblah:
     
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    When an illegal murders a citizen just sue the state for not enforcing laws that wouod have prevented that action. If our MSM actually cared about our country, every incident would be 24/7 news until justice is served. But our MSM has become treasonous. They clap for an impeachment with no grounds and bury stories of illegals raping and murdering citizens. It’s mind boggling.
     
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    Mind pointing me to "Trumpsters" that are "clamoring for fully armed soldiers in our homes"? Oh right, you can't because its not happening.

    Pretty sure this...

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    is superior to this....


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    Or this....

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    Or this....

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    No, that case didn’t involve children of parents here illegally
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    No that cAse was about state laws dealing with public education K-12. Not citizenship, nor fimmigrantion law, that belongs to the federal govt.

    And it’s not illegal to aid and abet drunk drivers, it is to illegal aliens
     
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    Are you serious? Read the posts on this thread, ffs! It's what this thread is about.

    The Trumpsters on this forum actually want these border patrol "special ops" soldiers to have permission to knock down the doors of our homes. Do you really think that unconstitutional process will be restricted to just the homes of illegals? Will that make you feel safe?

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
     
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    Which doesn’t change reality.

    nothing is coming. There is nothing that can be done to them.
     
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    Germany declared war on the usa right after pearl arbor
     
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    It’s the government announcing it. Announcing an impending raid and announcing a DUI checkpoint are exactly the same thing. Neither are illegal.
     

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