Trump administration slaps more sanctions on Russia after Skripal poisonings

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How easy it is to rouse simpletons into aggression with false propaganda?
     
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    There isnt 1 shred of evidence to support that.

    Its not because in russia this is common that this happens in the rest of the world.
     
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    Good nice to see this administration finnaly taking some steps in this, baby steps no doubt more will follow .
     
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    Yes!!!

    What is the reason of this crisis?

    In my opinion, the reason is that Theresa May has used a very primitive trick - she said that since a Russian traitor had been poisoned in the UK, ONLY Russians had been able to commit this crime.

    Although, there could be at the minimum one other variant - there can be a state which wants that relations between Russia and the rest of the world become worse and the secret service of this state had poisoned the above mentioned traitor in order to put this poisoning on Russians.

    If there are more than one suspect, everything else is a sheer police work - search for finger prints, pictures from CCTV cameras etc.

    And I don't believe that it is possible in the 21st century to commit such a crime without leaving a lot of traces - such crimes need much preparation (prior observation etc.), fact of the crime itself must leave traces etc.

    And if we look more closely at this situation (without jumping-overs to Seth Rich, Elon Mask, a Greek terrorist group, Obama etc.), it will be, in my opinion, obvious, that the sanctions against Russia are based only on assumptions.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "The new Mueller indictments should definitively put the Seth Rich conspiracy to rest."

    In other words hushed up?? And assassinations take place in various guises in all countries? :rolleyes:

    There are plenty of other links to choose from . . .

    https://www.vox.com/2018/7/13/17568840/russia-trump-seth-rich-conspiracy-mueller-indictments
     
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    There are already 16 reports about poisoning of the Skripals on the official website of Scotland Yard - http://news.met.police.uk/search?query=skripal&type_of_media=news

    But I have found no single word from police about Russian involvement in this poisoning or about police assumption hereof on the official website of Scotland Yard.

    I hear about Russian involvement in this poisoning only from politicians and from media.

    Although only police has the right to investigate crimes.
     
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    There are 64 special threads about Seth Rich on this forum - http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?search/4014230/&q=Seth+rich&o=date&c[title_only]=1

    Why do you write about Seth Rich in the thread about the Skripals?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My post wasn't specifically about the Skripals, more about state assassinations, in that I pointed out, as an exemplar to someone, that it isn't only Russia that indulges in it? I've been on discussion forums like this one for some years so I know the rules!
     
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    I don’t speak about the rules.

    I speak about a sheer possibility to understand the subject of the discussion.

    If we begin to discuss the poisoning of the Skripals, and then jump over to assassination of Seth Rich, John Kennedy, Ernesto "Che" Guevara, Julius Caesar, Philip II of Macedon etc. because these assassinations seem us to be “good examples” of something, I am convinced that we would nothing understand about the poisoning of the Skripals.

    In order to understand something about the poisoning of the Skripals, we must know what Scotland Yard says after more than a half year of investigation etc.

    And the general principals or general algorithms of assassinations can be discussed in a separate thread.
     
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    Bugger off!
     
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    I understand that you want to write here about anything but not about the Skripals although this thread is about the Skripals.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Get some messageboard time in before you start lecturing me!
     
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    There is a very primitive trick - if a person does not want that people discuss a certain subject, which this person finds dangerous for himself, this person begins to pile a lot of names, events etc. in order to lead the talk in a different direction.

    There are many good examples hereof in this thread about the Skripals where Poohbear writes about Elon Mask, a Greek terrorist group, Ukraine, Obama, the Clintons etc. and where cerberus wants to tell about Seth Rich exactly in this thread.
     
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    Got it! Have a nice day.
     
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    I want to explain why, in my opinion, some people may fear the discussion about the poisoning of the Skripals.

    Because the situation with the Skripals is quite simple.

    At the beginning of March a Russian traitor was poisoned in the UK; only a week later Theresa May declared that this crime could be committed only by Russians and imposed sanctions against Russia.

    Now we have the middle of August and there is no single word about Russian involvement in this poisoning on the official website of Scotland Yard which investigates this crime.

    I repeat - NO SINGLE WORD about Russian involvement in this poisoning on the official website of Scotland Yard - http://news.met.police.uk/search?query=skripal&type_of_media=news

    Only politicians and media tell us about this involvement.

    But the people, about whom I have written at the beginning of my post, don’t want that we discuss full absence of confirmation for statements of Theresa May and company about the poisoning of the Skripals.

    These people try to lead the talk in a different direction because they want that we don’t discuss this poisoning in this thread.

    With this purpose they suggest that we discuss here a general theory of assassinations, general theory of capitalism etc.

    But I, on the contrary, suggest that we stay by the subject of this thread and that, e.g. a general theory of assassinations will be discussed in a separate thread.
     
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