Trump and the Alt Right are frightened the next election will be decided by Americans

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  1. Distraff

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    Want a chuckle? Read the part of the bible that says that women can't talk in churches.
     
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    Trump and the Alt Right are frightened the next election will be decided by Americans
    For the Republicans standing by as Trump threatens everyone who disagrees with him.
    For all the reasons allies and other countries have moved on ............ and can't rely on America as a strong ally.
    For the Wealth Shift Legislation ......... passed by the Republicans.
    For the rising hate and racism experienced since Trump began campaigning

    For the division of America Trump pushes daily
    For millions of Americans who disagree with Trumps pandering to the small segment of citizens ignoring the majority of Americans


    Bring back Truth, Justice and the American Way !!
     
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    The Mar-a-lago pantload is far too heavy a drag on the GOP nationally, but Mighty Mitch could still hang on for two more years in the Senate due to circumstances beyond the control of the American electorate in November.

    Could the huge Democratic lead shrink precipitously by then? Of course! In fact, I am convinced that Republicans should bet on it - heavily.

     
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    The problem with the next election is that they really do not like either party, but are forced to vote for one. If one checks it out, Democrats in congress are seen favorable by only 35% of all Americans, unfavorable by 51% of all Americans. Among the non-affiliated or independents who don't belong or identify with either party, Democrats in congress have only a 21% favorable vs. 54% unfavorable. The Republicans in congress are viewed worst. 28% of all Americans have a favorable view of them to 57% unfavorable and among independents, the non-affiliated, Republicans in congress have only a 20% favorable, 53% unfavorable. questions 46A and B below.

    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/gcv50vr08k/econTabReport.pdf

    Neither party is liked. The choice boils down to which party one wants to lose the least. Definitely, not which party's candidates one wants to win. There isn't one among our two major parties that most Americans want to win the next election.

    I think both major parties are oblivious to how much most Americans despise them. This would explain how party affiliation/identification has fallen from Democrats making up 35% of the electorate, Republicans 30% and Independents 32% in 2012 down to the Democrats making up 27%, Republicans 25% and independents 46% of the total electorate today. The problem is that Republicans and Democrats write our election laws as a mutual protection act to prevent the rise of a viable third party. They are very happy with their monopoly on our two party voting system and intend to keep it that way. Regardless of how most Americans view each major party. They don't care and don't have to care. There is no other choice and both major parties knows that and can give America as a whole, the finger.
     
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    "releasing TRUE information about Hillary". Fixed it for you. Manipulating public opinion by telling the truth? Telling the truth is somehow considered a dirty political trick now? Who wrote those emails? Clinton. They were never denied. Who left them on an unsecured server? Clinton. Who got paid $600k and a $mil by the Russians for speeches? The Clintons.
    Who paid for a phony dossier to be used against D. Trump? Clinton. Who couldn't win a fixed election? Clinton. Who's crying now? Clintonistas.
     
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    I almost went time travelling back to 2016 reading your predictions. I hope you're as accurate now as you were then. How did you like Hillary's inauguration?
     
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    LOL, yes you guys are like a cartoon.
     
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    JakeStarkey said: Indeed you are, therooster. The American public have caught on just how cartoonish Trump and his ilk have become.
    Thank you for proving my point about Trumpers being cartoonish.

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    So, russians voted in the last election? How?

    And that would be the only way the russians could ever win an election. If someone tells you differently, well, behold! A damned liar. And make note.
     
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    Only weak heads think "russians voted in the last election."

    Only weak heads believe the Russians did not interfere in the election process.

    There is going to be a very short distance between such weak head thinking and treason if this keeps up.
     
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    In 2016, I correctly noted the precipitous drop in Clinton's lead as election day approached. It was reflected in the aggregate of polls whose last prediction was a 3.1% popular vote margin, and it had fallen to a final 2.2% on election day, an error of only 1.1% - more accurate than the 2012 call. His edge of 78,000 votes in three key states ended up being more determinative that her 2.9 million nationally, of course.

    If they need to, fanatics can simply pretend that all polls are wildly awry if they don't suit them, but Trump's public appraisal has consistently stunk in virtually all of them. We'll just need to see if that ever changes, and we can only speculate on his impact on the Party nationally in 2018.
     
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    Except I'm not a "Trumper". You should pay attention.
     
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    Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

     
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    Yup, like the Missouri district the other night.
     
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    Nope. Do you?
     
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    Funny! Actually, most on the right fear the next election will be decided by Mexicans and/or the Supreme Court. When elections are decided by Americans, they usually work out okay, Obama excepted.
     
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    You forget Republicans come and largely vote consistently in large numbers and Democrats don't do the same. Lets look at their base:

    Bible belt evangelical Christians.

    The military.

    White men.

    Legal immigrants holding conservative values.

    Racists.

    Law enforcement.

    Rural people.

    Gun lovers.

    Seniors.

    Blue collar workers.

    And largely the GOP voters turn out to vote off major elections and major elections, in strong numbers and seems to me in poor weather or even if their man or woman is going to win they still vote while Democrats need to be highly mobilized to vote and be consistent. How many Hillary supporter assumed she was going to win so they didn't vote perhaps more than enough to turn the election.

    My father says if the GOP ran Adolf Hitler for office he would get lots of the GOP votes is he that far off from the truth?
     
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    Even as Trumps intelligence chiefs unanimously told a Senate panel Tuesday that Russia meddled in 2016 and is planning to do so again in 2018, three sources familiar with the President's thinking say he remains unconvinced that Russia interfered in the presidential election.
    While this issue is separate from the question of whether Trump campaign officials colluded with Russian officials, to Trump the issues are interwoven, the sources say. He views the notion that Russia meddled in the election as an argument that he had help to win, and that he didn't win the election on his own.
    Trump's view contradicts his intelligence chiefs, including Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, CIA Director Mike Pompeo and FBI Director Chris Wray, who all testified -- again -- on Tuesday that they supported the intelligence community's January 2017 assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.

    "There should be no doubt that Russia perceives its past efforts as successful and views the 2018 US midterm elections as a potential target for Russian influence operations," Coats said at the Senate Intelligence Committee hearing on worldwide threats.

    Trump has been skeptical about the intelligence assessment that Russia meddled ever since he was first briefed on the issue during the presidential transition. But that skepticism has endured even after Trump hand-selected his own intel chiefs and they reiterated the conclusions of their predecessors.
     
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    Why in the world would we ever trust Americans to elect our own leaders when we can have Vladimir and company do it for us. Putin has failed miserably in running Russia, but he seems to be doing at least a mediocre job of running the United States.
     
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    With taxes going down on the poor, and up on the middle class, the outcome of the next election will be very interesting.

    Most people won't yet know by November 2018 that their taxes have gone up dramatically.

    So the bigger impact on the elections will be in 2020 when everybody has found out.
     
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    Ah yes, the left's faux patriotism is shining thru. There were many obama voters who switched and voted for Trump. Accept it.
     
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    Its best to play scared

    Take nothing for granted as the left is starting to do
     

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