Trump and the GOP Tax Plan Screwed Middle Class Parents Out of a Refund

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Why must the BLUE states subsidize the RED states?
     
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    IMO, take it back to 1800s spain.
     
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    Trump Hates America

    Trump Hates the Middle Class.

    Trump's Tax "Policy" is all about making himself and his rich buddies richer (on the backs of hard-working Americans).

    Trump is a DISGRACE.
     
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    You REALLY hate keeping more of your own money don't you?
     
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    Which senators are you talking about?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Cory Gardner, Jon Kyle, Susan Collins, Thom Tillis and Joni Earnst.
     
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    They don’t come from high tax states like NY and Cali that are having issues like the OP.

    Also I wouldn’t call Iowa or NC blue states...Kyl isnlt running for re-election
     
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    Dems are going to be motivated all across the nation in 2020 and what the GOP and your beloved BLOTUS did with this fiscal malfeasance taxcut is going to ensure that those Dems in blue states will be contributing via ActBlue to the opponents of ALL of those Senators. You only need to see how the fundraising closed the gap in Texas in 2018 to understand how effective it can be in 2020.
     
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    I have no doubt big left wing pacs will spend... but why do want to raise my taxes?
     
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    ActBlue is NOT a "big leftwing pac". Instead it is the anti-PAC solution that has OUTRAISED all of the corrupt corporate PACs. Since the conservatives have no equivalent they are going to be seriously hurting in 2020.
     
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    No it’s a 501c3 PAC...for the left. It’s been around since 04. No doubt it will spend a lot of money. But why do you want to raise my taxes and that of other American workers?
     
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    And that is exactly what is. Leftist propaganda. Think Progress was one of the first to put out the bullshit. Their claim was factchecked as spin.
     
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    Trump did. That's why they are paying more. :lol:
     
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    People are getting less back because most people paid less throughout the year. They kept more in their 24-26 paychecks and therefore didn't give the government an interest free loan. If you are upset that you didn't get more back than last year, its because you spent it already and have a very fickle mind because you want big daddy government to give you a big check at the end of the year since you cant save it on your own.
     
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    Funny how that turns out to be a lot of leftists. Ever notice that.
     
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    True the tax cuts were temp. Since Democrats didn't want to make them permanent.

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    No they hate that their Demos screwed up and pimped out that Communist agenda under AOC. Which is going to cause a lot of Demos in purple and blue states to be on the defensive and fight an uphill battle.
     
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    They haven't learned in Chicago and Illinois. Which is causing businesses and the people to leave the city and state in Droves.

    They also just raised minimum wage to 15 dollars an hour. Moodys came out with what it will cost taxpayers. Said to prepare for more businesses and people to exit the state. Which Democrats and their leftist economists have driven Chicago's credit to junk bond status.

    Already Chicago's population is down to what it was in the 1940s. Maybe once it drops down to what it was in 1900. People will learn not to vote in Democrats ever again.


    Is the Trump tax cut good or bad for the middle class ...
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/01/12/is...
    Claim: “It’s a debt-inducing, make-rich-people-richer tax bill that in the long run is not going to be helpful to the vast majority of people in my state that are sitting around the kitchen table trying to figure out ho…

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    Fact checked by washingtonpost.com
     
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    I'll have to give Gov, Cuomo some credit...he is starting to come around on this issue...of courses he incorrectly blames Trump....but he is starting to see that the tax the rich scheme is failing NY...https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/cuomos-budget-rich-high-taxes/
     
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    Nah, just remember what Reagan said about the leftness.


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    I guess you never thought about the office clerks, school teachers and construction workers living in homes in Queens and Long Island who found that their deductions were sharply reduced by Trump's tax law. They're the ones getting really screwed. And a lot of them voted for Trump.

    The beneficiaries are all in the glass towers across the river (after all, Mnuchin designed the tax bill along with his Wall Street friends. Trump works for Wall Street.

    And his base votes for Wall Street.
     
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    Nah they are faking it. Their usual.


    Democratic contenders hoping to run on soaking the rich ...
    Chicago Tribune
    7 days ago · Several European countries have recently eliminated wealth taxes because they are so hard to administer, and the value of the mega-rich's holdings so hard to pin down, Glickman said.

    Democrat Floats Idea for 80 Percent Tax on the Rich
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    9 days ago · Republicans came into this presidential campaign with painful memories of how, in the last one, Democrats blasted Mitt Romney's tax plan as a giveaway to the rich Politics February 1, 2019

    Hold On To Your Wallets! Democrats Already Have A Tax Hike ...
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/28127/hold-your-wallets-democrats...
    The Democrats' plan would also raise the tax rate for the highest income tax bracket from 37% to 39%, reinstate the alternative minimum tax, and cut the "death tax" deduction in half — plans that would effectively raise taxes and fees on a majority of Americans, and not just the rich.
     
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    where are you getting lost? My refund is less, and my tax liability is greater. This has happened to millions of other americans as well.
     
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    1. their taxable income needs to be above $100k or so for them to be affected by SALT cap. And the doubling of the standard deduction with substantial tax rate decreases for every income bracket may well offset whatever they lose on the SALT cap.

    2. They NOW pay the exact same amount of federal tax as their counterparts earning similar income elsewhere in the country. Previously they paid significantly less. How is it not fair that a teacher in Staten island making $100k will pay the exact same federal tax as a teacher in Miami making $100k?

    3. If they think they pay too much state and NYC tax, liberals governor Cuomo and mayor de Blasio are their men, not Trump.
     
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    All I'm telling you is what my accountant has told me. My refund is less, and my tax liability is greater.
     

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