Trump announces executive order aiming to obtain accurate count of citizens in the US

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  1. apexofpurple

    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    Today's press conference was short but the gist of it is that the census will not contain the citizenship question and the administration will instead pursue more comprehensive strategy for determining a count of citizens, visitors, and illegals that they believe will have better results than a questionnaire. AG Barr reminded us that the SCOTUS didn't opposes the existence of a citizenship question (rejecting the left's claims of racism issues) instead opting for absurd and clearly political reasons to reject the reason why the Commerce Dept wanted to include it in the first place.

    In the end the fight continues and I actually think its better this way. The President is seen to be compliant with an ridiculous ruling (his predecessor would regularly ignore rulings that he didn't like) while the left is seen to be once again placing of illegal immigrants ahead of the welfare of the nation. And this will continue as this data will be used to determine funding and voting law for years to come. The left will undoubtedly be unable to resist picking illegals over their countrymen in these faceoffs and while it will make their shrinking base happy it will also provide increased support for Republicans.

     
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  2. US Conservative

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    Great job. We get the needed info, plus more.

    Dems look like the bad guys yet again.

     
  3. Libby

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    That's all well and good, but I don't know how on earth he's planning to do it....

    The question should have been allowed on the census. Period.
     
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    I think the states that issue illegal alien drivers licenses might have some useful info.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree it should have been allowed-it was a crap ruling.
     
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    Big Whoop.

    Trump got Defeated and OWNED on his Epically FAILED Attempt to add the citizenship question to the 2020 Census.

    Slam Down DEFEAT for Trump.

    As far as what Trump announced?

    The Census Bureau suggested that he do that last year.

    Once again. Big Whoop.

    There is Universal Consensus that Trump got Totally OWNED.:salute:
     
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    Notice how :censored: aid and provide comfort to criminal foreign nationals with deportation orders while trump fights for the American people?
     
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    The various lower court judges judicial activists who allowed frivolous SJW rhetoric to survive their courts are to blame. Thankfully President Trump has been hard at work adding new judges the bench. His administration might lose a few battles in here and now but I think ultimately a greater war will be won because this President has done more to disrupt the cancer of tyranny than any man since our founders.
     
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    Yes, good point. Although I don't know how many states issue illegal alien driver's licenses, other than California? (I looked it up ;) "Twelve states and the District of Columbia enacted laws to allow unauthorized immigrants to obtain a driver’s licenses." The states are: California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Vermont and Washington. Also "In 2019, legislators in several states introduced legislation to provide driver’s licenses to undocumented residents including Florida, Kansas, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, and Texas." http://www.ncsl.org/research/immigration/states-offering-driver-s-licenses-to-immigrants.aspx)

    I just find it wasteful and redundant to have to do a different count, when this question should have been on the census.
     
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    Its a striking contrast.
     
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    :censored: literally step over tent cities full of needy homeless Americans to help needy homeless foreign nationals at the expense of the needy homeless Americans.

    :censored: make poor Americans compete with needy homeless foreign nationals for resources meant for poor Americans.
     
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    :roflol:

    Not even CLOSE.

    As to the OP, Trump is just doing exactly what the Census Bureau suggested last year.
     
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    Agreed... WHAT's the Executive Order?? Count non citizens? That's an executive order??

    Pretty generic.

    Next Executive Order??

    Cure Diseases....
     
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    Caution Caution - Lemonade Making IN Progress......
     
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    Correction, he lost in the courts and was defeated on that account, but he won the issue politically, he wasn't "owned."

    Poll: Two-Thirds of Voters Say Citizenship Question Should Be Allowed on Census
     
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    Dems are the party of the 3rd world.
     
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    Got to say I'm proud of the cleverness here
     
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    And he still gets the information this way anyway so... who cares?
     
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    Well it is. There simply wasn't enough time to defeat all of the frivolous challenges but they would have been defeated. I think this underlined point is not getting enough attention. The challengers knew there was a short clock on this one and they knew the snails like pace of the court system would be their best ally. They won the battle to keep the question off the census but we should all pause a moment and consider just how dirty of a fight it was. Justice didn't succeed, devious strategic maneuvering did. Imagine if that's how every case played out. /shrug
     
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    SNIP
    "We spend $20 billion on a census," Trump told attendees. "They go through houses, they go up, they ring doorbells, they talk to people. How many toilets do they have? How many desks do they have? How many beds? What's their roof made of? The only thing we can't ask is, are you a citizen of the United States. Isn't it the craziest thing?"
    ENDSNIP

    Best of luck, pal.... As our Founding Fathers once said "We have the right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of private roofing materials"

    From my COLD DEAD HANDS will THIS government find out what MY roof is made of......

    WTF??
     
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    I suspect he won't.... Not in time anyway...
     
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    True.

    So why did this Trump IDIOT try to add the Citizenship Question in the First Place?

    Trump really is a MORON.
     
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    Information the government already has.

    And you don't see how this is total bs? They already have the information.
     

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