Trump attorney's memo to Pence outlined procedure to overturn election

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    I read, and wow, talk about the nail in the coffin for the lawsuits. !!!!!
     
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    I was being sarcastic.
     
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    Powell was first and the most voluminous, but everybody else being sued by Dominion was right on her heels, making slightly different claims in different forums...

    Here are the current Seditious Seven

    Powell
    Rudy
    Pillow Doofus
    OANN
    Faux News
    (Non)NewsMax
    Patrick Byrne (No relation to David)

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alison...so-far-and-who-could-be-next/?sh=317f2b11510e
     
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  4. Arkanis

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    This isn't a surprise.

    From the beginning, there has been no legal basis.

    It's an attempted coup.

    9 of Trump's lawyers will soon be disbarred.

    The ones who are getting away with it are the ones who publicly claimed fraud but refused to repeat their claims in a court of law.

    They knew full well what they would face if they made a false case before a judge.
     
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    Sure... but then you need to demonstrate some connection between the "T**** campaign" and T**** I'm sure many on his campaign, including his AG, knew it was all bullshit, but facts like that rarely make it past the hair spray, which is why HE likely won't be personally sued by Dominion...
     
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    I figured he means Pence betrayed the American p
    Being sued isn't winning the lawsuit. These news agencies are being sued because they let Powell use them as a pulpit.
    Lindell has made claims that Dominion machines were hacked. This will be harder to win than against Powell who claimed that Dominion possibly deliberately altered votes in some conspiracy theory.
     
  7. MJ Davies

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    She said under OATH that "no reasonable person would believe my lies about election fraud."

    This is a person in HIS CAMP admitting that she lied UNDER OATH. Further, she INSULTS them (basically calling them unreasonable).

    Those 10 words should break the Orange Jesus haze.
     
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    Why would anybody throw away their career for a monster? Remember, PigPen from Charlie Brown? He had a haze of filth surrounding him. That's Orange Jesus and the haze is just chaos and destruction everywhere he goes.

    I've been putting it off but I'm going to order this book.


    everything trump touches dies.jpg
     
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    Just not entirely true...

    For example, in the Faux suit, anchors were spreading Dominion lies on their own, without Powell being involved.. They may have been repeating some of her nonsense, but I'm sure it didn't stop there...

    SNIP
    The lawsuit takes aim at claims spread on the network by such anchors as Maria Bartiromo, Lou Dobbs and Sean Hannity but does not name them as defendants, with attorneys saying on a press call Friday, “Ultimately, the buck stops with Fox.”

    Dominion sent multiple letters to Fox News asking them to retract their false election claims, but allege the network did not respond and instead “double[d] down” on the conspiracy theory, going “right back on the attack against Dominion” on Jeanine Pirro’s program the day after the first letter was sent.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alison...ion-over-election-conspiracy/?sh=15a7ed97018b

    Why are you trying to put all this on Powell?? Sacrificing one to save the many??
     
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    If you pay a professional to give you information and advice and they give you crap information, they deserve the fallout of their own mistake.
     
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    Right, but remember that prepared speech he read distancing himself from the Capitol rioters? The letter from the attorney, his tweets showing that he fired people for saying and/or telling him there was no widespread election fraud and now court documents with actual proof that his camp knew about it. There's no possible way he can say his top people ("I only hire the best people") didn't tell him.

    In fact, I'm pretty sure they didn't need to tell him. He knows he set this lie up before Summer arrived last year. That's when he started planting the "if I lose, it's because of a rigged election" subliminal messages to his cult members. Since he's not psychic, how did he know that? Because he was expecting to lose because he didn't handle COVID.

    We are on the brink of self-destruction in a civil war because of him. There were Trump supporters in this forum GLOATING about the suicide bomber killing 13 of our soldiers neat the Kabul airport because it happened on Biden's watch. That's sick and toxic and it's all Trump's doing because he lead these people to believe that he's been wronged in some kind of way knowing it's not true. Even if he can't admit that he screwed up COVID mitigation, he should have cared enough about our country and our people to not keep throwing gasoline on a raging fire.

    He needs to see a mental health specialist preferably in a psychiatric hospital setting so they can Thorazine his stupid @ss.
     
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    First of all, Trump didn't pay her. She publicly stated that she was financing all that herself. He has refused to pay Giuliani.

    Second, Trump did not get/take advice from Powell. Trump dictated to her and Rudy what he wanted done. This was his plan to float the election fraud lie before last Summer rolled around. Lindell is just a coo-coo bird with a ton of money from selling pillows but he tries to come off like an intellectual. None of the four people mentioned in this post are intelligent. Not even the stable genius. Especially not the stable genius.

    He didn't cover his tracks well enough this time.
     
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    How do you not pay someone and dictate to them at the same time?
    Have you never consulted a professional for legal, medical, or financial advice and received that consultation for free? Some do that to get new clients. The fact that it was free, does not change the fact that the professionals providing poor advice are at fault for that poor advice or information.
     
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    No, he indicated that they could subvert the election.
     
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    In my experience, you contact a lawyer for 'legal' advice. If I wanted illegal advice, I would probably consult a Democrat.
     
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    It is no surprise. The question is, should there be some consequences for trying to steal the election, but not succeeding?

    -If someone plans to rob a bank, but the plan is thwarted because the only guy with an escape car refuses to go along, would this be a crime?

    -If someone plans a terrorist attack, but doesn't succeed? Crime or not? In fact, we drone people in foreign countries because we "think" they plan terrorist attacks, without due process, so I guess just planning an attack is a crime.

    -I know from my own personal experience that at our university, attempting academic dishonesty will be met with consequences, even if not successful. We once had a student who hid a cheat sheet in an exam. Even though she didn't get to use it, she lost all points for the exam.

    So, why is there no consequence for Trump for this egregious attempt to cede power against the will of the American people? An action that could have led to widespread civil unrest with potentially many victims. Others have been punished for much less. This was a clear attack on our democracy. And it seems like he gets off scot free, because his supporters won't hold him accountable.
     
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    What ever helps you sleep at night. I’m sure if Joe did this you would support it ;)
     
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    Sorry
     
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    The poster replied he was being sarcastic.
     
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    I do agree there, thank goodness Pence was better than that, hard to believe how many times Trump tried to cheat to steal the election
     
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    And now we know he knew the voting machines were working fine. His deliberate efforts to use his office to overturn the elections should be criminal.

    He certainly just destroyed his civil defense argument.
     
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    That's no surprise given his lack of character, but to me, it's harder to believe an exceptionally few number of his own party have spoken out against that.

    Actually, that's no surprise either, given the national spine shortage....
     
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    Because politics has become toxic in the US and the justice system allows the rich to get away with it.

    Trump deserves a long stay behind bars, we all agree on that.

    He is a traitor.

    But he would be seen by the MAGA as the victim of a political vendetta and become a martyr.

    The situation would be totally out of control if the right wing were the dominant force in the country.

    In fact, if the Conservatives had the same political weight as the Liberals, the US would be an autocracy like Russia today.

    But fortunately, the Liberals have the power. So if they are mobilized, they can neutralize the MAGA and Trump forever.
     
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    It’s sad that he’s “done” because he refused to **** on the Constitution.
     
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