Trump Blames Gold Star Families

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  1. Lesh

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    He is the most despicable, ignorant, sociopathic person I've ever seen on TV or in person.
     
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    So some one asked Trump where he might have gotten the virus maybe I got it from one of the good star families, and leftist of drop some more faux outrage. They were at the same meeting with everyone else and he did get closer to them than he did everyone else. So who knows but acting like he's accusing them if treason or something is idiotic.
     
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    He can do contact tracing and know exactly where he got it. Instead he chose to cast aspersions over upload_2020-10-8_21-24-55.png gold star families.
     
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    huh? Come again?

    You don't proofread, do you?
     
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    Contact tracing isn't instantaneous, you know. And that's not casting aspersions, it's a guess. Now if he claimed one of them did it on purpose without evidence you'd have a point.
     
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    So what? He saying it was one of many events and you never know. Perhaps he did. That isn't an insult. Calling Airmen stupid bastards is an insult.
     
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    I am not sure what the issue is here....he was asked a question about where he might have gotten it....he gave a logical answer...but the reality is who knows where he got it.....we do now that patient zero is in China and it should never of been able to get out of China, but the Communist Party of China (Bide and Harris's big backer) lied and allowed it to leave
     
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    So he has no problem answering a question about where or from whom he may have contracted the virus, but he can't answer about the last time he had a covid test?
     
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    The rationale they gave for this is especially suspect seeing as the WH has announced many negative test results for Capt. Clorox in the past.
     
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    Says the person who didn’t read the article.
     
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    He did not "blame" anyone, fake title....yawn....Orange man bad BS.
     
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    Here’s an idea. Allow proper contact tracing ( which should be done anyway) and don’t blame the parents of dead soldiers
     
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    He offered a possibility he didn't blame anyone.
     
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    "Could have been" is not "blaming". Unless you have proof of who infected him with absolute certainty, then they very well could have been the ones to do it.
     
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    He blamed the families for not following social distancing policies and suggested the only reason he didn't was respect. Of course, he was almost immediately contradicted by his own spokesperson who said that they had taken precautions at that event and that it is unlikely to be the source of his infection. Someone isn't telling the unvarnished truth here.
     
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    Well, yes, but here, being fair I don't think he's really accusing anyone. He seems to be just generally bitching because you can't get close to people like he'd like to without getting a terrible disease.

    Which he is largely responsible for, and this gets back to your description.
     
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    Sounds like they could have infected him as stated.
     
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    If it happened as Trump described yes, that behaviour would have certainly been high risk and be a plausible source of his infection. It would also suggest the White House failed to implement appropriate infection control measures in planning and running the meeting.

    The problem is that a White House spokesperson asked about Trumps statement said that appropriate measures were in place for that meeting and that their tracing suggests it is unlikely to have been the source. Hence my point is that someone isn't telling the unvarnished truth.
     
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    He was asked where he could have gotten it from and he provided a plausible scenario. What’s the problem?
     
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    It's a possibility that he could have got it that way, given how close people might have come up to him ( and the fact that he refuses to wear a mask - minor detail).

    Fairly stupid bringing it up though, given his historical lack of grace with that demographic.
     
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    As I said, the problem is that the White House spokesperson contradicted Trump, so at least one of them can't be telling the truth. The spokesperson said it wasn't a likely source of the infection and that precautions were taken (which would mean what Trump described shouldn't have been able to happen). Don't you consider people in government lying to the public a problem (far from a new problem but a problem all the same)?

    There is the related problem in that Trump was shifting the blame entirely on the the families (hence the OP angle), saying he couldn't ask them to step back and completely ignoring the facts that he could just didn't want to and that the event should have been arranged and managed in such a way that that kind of close contact was avoided in the first place. That wouldn't be perfect given the intimate nature of the event but those are the kind of compromises we all have to make at the moment. Trump doesn't seem to believe such measures are necessary and so I suspect the truth is that few were in place, which would mean the spokesperson wasn't telling the truth and Trump was unjustly blaming the families for not doing something he choses not to do himself.
     
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    No see this is my problem. Those are NOT sacrifices we all have to make. This is a novel virus with an 80+% infection rate. It is INEVITABLE that we all contract it. Inevitable. Either you will contract it by the virus itself or you will contract it through getting a vaccine that many experts question the safety of given how fast it’s coming out. Fortunately the virus isn’t that deadly so if you do get it the VAST majority of people who get it 99.6% will not die.

    We are only delaying the inevitable. Trump did what we ALL should do. If you’re not healthy take precautions, but if you’re healthy, Live our lives and if we get it then we will most likely recover and become immunized. What our country is currently doing is completely insane.
     
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    Different people operate on different assumptions. Neither someone's apparently knows for certain.
     

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