Trump Calls For Auditing the Fed

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Who do you believe would tackle flaws in Fed policy?

  1. President Donald Trump

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  2. President Hillary Clinton

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes...... an auditing of the Federal Reserve is a logical first step in finding the money for
    a massive series of infrastructure spending in the continental USA.

    Much of your idea HailVictory..... is above my comprehension at this time but I will certainly try my best to understand what you mean by this?!
     
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    Ok well the idea is simple (I wrote this a while ago so I'm kinda refreshing). We need to switch the Federal Reserve and the whole government for that matter off of paper. You saw how easy it was to track down Hillary with her emails. Now imagine if all of those emails were sheets of paper and she was just giving them to people without using the Postal Service. It would be a lot harder to track it down, and she could just destroy the paper. So the whole Federal Reserve should have a computer database with all of the transactions in and out to be easily just pulled up (I'm sure they have this already but just stating it for the record). Furthermore, anyone in government should be able to just access this whenever they want, the report I mean, not the actual transactions. It's like a never-ending audit basically that is always checked so that you never need to go back and go through the audit over and over again.

    The second thing I propose is only employing military personnel to the Federal Reserve. The US military is the only group of people I trust with our funds. Because there's always a commanding officer to reprimand someone. And so if someone does a backdoor dealing and it shows up on that computer database, you can be severely punished. Because in the military, you don't just lose your job if you do something wrong, you are punished and then expected to do your job right the next time.

    The final thing I propose is a secret police force. A graduation from stop-and-frisk really, but body cams must be worn and cannot be taken off. Furthermore, this police force would also be a faction of the US military. And their job would be to inspect both the government and the people. So we would have secret agents working in the Federal Reserve whose sole job is to make sure that no one else does any underground deals. We should have these people all over the government for that matter, that way we can calm down Anthony Weiner's wiener while we're at it ;). I obviously have ways to make sure that this doesn't get out of hand and still works with our checks and balances in government, but I just took the SAT so I really dont feel like writing them all down.
     
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    Doubt he tries to get an audit, as Ron Paul wanted. Anyways, what is the purpose of such an audit? We already have a group in the private sector, high elites, who own the Federal Reserve System, along with all of the big banks. This deal was done on the sly in 1913, by the most powerful bankers in existence today, and their offspring are still in charge of a nation's money supply, and their tenacles reach around the globe. They are the most powerful elites in the world. For they control the dollar which is world reserve currency. What a place to be!!! And that is where the real power lies, and the power that lies behind the throne in DC. You all know that famous quote about this very thing, about if one controlled the currency, they need not be president nor king.

    This private sector, group of elites profit like nothing ever seen, in this banking cabal cartel. They add a tremendous cost to everything, that requires borrowing money. We need a US National Bank, owned by the citizens, and run on their behalf. Taking the profit away from a national banking system. And getting these greedy little sociopathic bastards OUT of the banking system. Make em go get a real job

    And just so you know....this banking cabal cartel are the jackwagons who really gave us open borders free trade globalization. To benefit only themselves. So how would they do that? So their MNCs would be more profititable with slave labor. And if the MNC was not owned by them, they would just tell the CEO, to move to mexico or china, or his corporation would be bought, and then it would be moved. For it would move, in one way or the other. Some were not resistant to moving offshore, since their CEO would share in the feast of slave labor.

    So if trump is really talking about tariffs, the banking cabal cartel will throw in with the democrats, MSM and others to beat him. They already have. Clinton is their girl. She is so good to this swine. .
     
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    But.... don't those banking elites deserve at least some credit for doing a rather impressive balancing act?


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=424298&page=5&p=1066688834#post1066688834
     
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    Among the things I have learned from my fact-based forum opponent, Iriemon, is that, in fact, the Federal Reserve combine already is audited!

    My complaints against the Fed are many, and I still think that the whole idea of a "central bank" has been disastrous, failing to correct the erratic up-and-down swings in the economy that it was supposedly put in place to prevent. But, central banks here, and in foreign countries, have proven to be excellent vehicles for the collusive control of the economy of the world, giving almost unimaginable power and control to the 'shadow-government' that stand behind these same central banks.

    Central banks, like the Fed, have been effective agencies to concentrate wealth in the hands of relatively few international corporations, "saving" and "rescuing" them because the bankers arbitrarily decide that they are "too big to fail". They artificially suppress interest rates, even when the demand for money is high, deliberately promote inflation at the same time, and create a monstrously unfair situation for people who actually SAVE money to provide for themselves and their needs. They control the money supply, and they're most willing to manipulate the value of currencies to fit their own political and economic aims, which boil down to nothing less than control over all economies, and thus, all governments. If the "Evil Power" has one force at work in the world it is central banks!

    But audits? Sure. There is a detailed, rigorous audit of the Fed, every year. They don't even need to "cook the books". They simply dictate and control all the criteria that are considered to be measured FOR the audit, and FOR every facet of its operation. No, to understand the Fed and other central banks its a waste of time to "get down in the weeds" of poring through an audit. Look instead at a much higher level to see how central banks gather and use unquestioned, absolute POWER.

    BTW, who put this Federal Reserve monstrosity into existence? Liberal Democrats, 102 years ago. Thanks, Woodrow Wilson. Thanks, too, to all the conniving liberal Democrats who rammed this unconstitutional thing into our national lives....
     
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    Brilliant analysis Pollycy!


    Yes...... one of the results of P. M. Pierre E. Trudeau's error of 1974 is that
    Canada's elderly people end up living on Canadian dollars that are eroded terribly by
    inflation and devaluation.
     
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    Gary Johnson is the only hope for ending fed policy. he would abolish it.
     
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    why audit a profit center instead of cost center, like our useless and exorbitantly expensive, War on Drugs.
     
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    An alternative to abolishing the Fed is to get them to do what they apparently are supposed to do......
    The Donald and Gary Johnson and others are correct that an audit must be done to figure out how America is eighteen trillion dollars in debt ...
    IF.... what dad2three is correct is supposed to be Federal Reserve policy?!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/united-states/211515-who-actually-owns-fed-why-must-end-2.html
    Thread: Who Actually Owns the Fed and Why That Must End

     
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    Trumps advisers probably tell him that this kind of "Audit the Fed" rhetoric will help him pull in votes from the young Libertarian, Ron/Rand Paulites.
     
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    That is certainly possible.

    But if The Donald scents a way to save American taxpayers billions and billions
    in interest payments............. this is an obvious way to cut the costs of government and
    gain popularity after his inauguration in January of 2017.

    It worked for President Lincoln!


    http://www.michaeljournal.org/lincolnkennedy.htm

     
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    Hasn't the Fed already been audited by the right; or is it just attention deficit disorder to match our budget deficit disorder.

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    Only the fantastical right wing, would want to audit a profit center instead of abolish our useless and exorbitantly expensive, War on Drugs.

    Why not audit the drug war; too novel for the right wing?
     
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    While the democrats were in in oval office, the robber barons and their bought politicians got this federal reserve created, no doubt in secrecy. Those robber barons still impose great control. FDR hauled them back in, but they were turned loose again. You have to watch over them like you would a child molester around kids. These are not normal human beings. This idea of the elites knowing better and needing to rule over the dirty rabble has been around a long time. But mostly, they are only concerned about maxing out tremendous wealth, for in great wealth there is power. And they have it.
     
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    The Robber Barons created the Federal Reserve central bank? Honestly, I never heard that before. It was a liberal Democrat seizure of power after an economic downturn in 1907 that lasted a few months. Democrat Woodrow Wilson (who later became president) and his clot of other liberal Democrats were actually the ones who brought this all-powerful oligarchy into power.

    The money supply skyrocketed during FDR's regime as you see in the chart below, so I don't see how Frankie Roosevelt did anything to curtail the Fed's power:

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    This quote of whomever is weirdly worded, but demonstrates the treachery of the Fed. Instead of indicting the Fed for stealing the purchasing power of the masses of everyone that gets paid in dollars, you bring up this concept of an interest rate for borrowed dollars. The beauty of it is to compare inflation/money printing directly to borrowing as the only way to not pay for money you recieve to be paid back later at 0 interest is through theft.

    The Fed effectively is one of the most covert yet destructive organized crime syndicates the world has ever seen.
     
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    Yes... several years ago I was watching Sun News Media and they were interviewing an economist......
    if I remember correctly his name may have been Steve Keen....

    he was giving P. M. Stephen Harper credit for saving Canadian taxpayers THIRTY BILLION DOLLARS IN INTEREST
    for each percentage point...... that the Canadian prime rate had been in the previous year.... in comparison to what
    the prime rate could have been?!

    If.... P. M. Stephen Harper's policies in the previous year had led to a prime rate two percentage points lower than
    what different policies might have led to.... then that would have resulted in Canadian taxpayers saving about
    sixty billion dollars in interest?!
     
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    This helps to explain why The Donald.....
    is less than enthusiastic with the performance of the Federal Reserve over
    these past three decades.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump


     
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    Yes... he obviously is concerned about this issue.


    Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/d/donald_trump_2.html
     
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    I'm not a Libertarian but after paying close attention to what the Federal Reserve has been doing for the past 7 1/2 years, it's obvious that Obama has politicized the Fed.
     
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    It's always been political, but what do see that 'O' has done ?
     
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    Along with just about every other agency you can name, IRS, DOJ, FBI, EPA and just about anything else with an anachronism

    The FED is a miserable failure it caused the great depression
     
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    As a neutral Brit I'm completely impartial about who'll win, but if I was American I'd absolutely vote for Don because every time he shoots, he scores..:)
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    When he becomes president?

    Someone is in for a rude surprise.
     
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    I could speculate that either of the three will find out that the offset and the drain could be attributed towards the fight for terrorism.

    Adams estimates that the U.S. spends at least $100 billion a year on counter-terrorism efforts.
    http://money.cnn.com/2015/11/16/news/economy/cost-of-fighting-terrorism/

    unlike money for commercial investments which do have an ROI.
     
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    President is a word..... subject to definition.....
    as a Christian I have the ability to nominate The Donald to be considered for the role of
    a latter day Cyrus type of political leader.......

    Even if he loses the election The Donald could potentially be chosen by
    Christians as a metaphorical "Cyrus" type of leader for us?!

    http://www.christianforums.com/threads/trump-and-the-number-666.7931949/
    Trump.....and the number 666....

    ......
     

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