Trump calls for death penalties for drug dealers as focus of opioids plan

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  1. KJohnson

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    As I write this, Trump is boarding air force one bound for New Hampshire to attend a meeting to discuss the Opioid crisis. Particular emphasis will be on whether or not to give drug dealers the death penalty.

    Needless to say, never Trumper's are not going to like this any better than his tax reform. Especially those living in mom and pop's basement stupefied after getting high all day while continuing to curse Trump's picture on TV. Those like Hillary, who blame Trump for all their problems.

    The good news, the economy is booming and so they can now get straight and find a job.
    The bad news, the economy is booming, they can't find drugs, and so they have no excuse but to find a job.







    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...th-penalty-drug-dealers-opioids-new-hampshire
     
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    I figured it wouldn't take long before trumpers wanted to start killing people.

    He praises Duterte's death squads. So it was easy to see this coming.

    We have a blood-thirsty country of killers. That's why they cheered like high-school girls when trump called for violence against protesters. And that's why trump could shoot someone and they wouldn't care.
     
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    While I'm not really against the death penalty - all this will really do is add in ten years of Appeals and add a ton
    of tax payer dollars to their prosecution. As with all things, Trump is more about The Show than what it is going to cost or
    if it will be effective. This isn't the Philippines, where we can just take them out and shoot them. The first drug dealer that
    will see the death penalty is at least ten years away.
     
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    Yet...

    Let's not forget that trumpies cheered for the mass murder of innocent people.
     
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    Not quite accurate. What is happening is that opoids prescribed by doctors are too hard to get, even for the people that need them, as doctors are afraid of the DEA meddling in their practices, with the recent changes in regards to pain meds. This is forcing people to buy off the black market, and heroin is cheaper than pain pills but the purity varies and you get overdoses and death.

    Lots of heroin comes into this nation, by drug cartels, as the poppy crops in afghanistan are wide open now, and exporting even to the US. It is how the CIA finances dark projects to keep congress from knowing about it. They have done this for years. The taliban had just about took out the poppy production and you can find pics online that show us protecting those poppy crops.

    But lining up drug dealers in front of firing squads would cut down on heroin dealers, but even that would never get rid of drug dealers. They would just kill a few cops as they were being arrested is all. For they were gonna die anyways if trump could get what he has voiced about them. So might as well take a few cops with them, if they can.

    If the death penalty actually worked, no one would have committed a murder back when most states executed them. The only people that works on are people who would never murder to begin with. It works on law abiding people, but not so well on criminals.
     
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    Care to cite example? I don't support the death penalty here, but surely you arent suggesting that opioid dealers are 'innocent'...
     
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    Seems Duterte has been wearing off on the Orange Anus.

    We already have a template for how to solve the opioid crisis.

    Step 1. Legalize Marijuana.
    Step 2. End the drug war.

    But nooooo, American exceptionalism dictates a loud mouthed, petulant minority insists on making criminals out of people for no good reason, all the while the truth behind their fake crusade is that big pharma bought their representatives and sold them out like the whores they are.

    We cannot punish our way out of this. We tried that. It backfired. Bigly.
     
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    And again - as soon as the death penalty is invoked, it automatically goes to appeals - so even if a drug dealer was captured and given the death penalty today, it going to be at least ten years before any death sentence would be carried out. Not really much of a deterrent in a culture that dismisses anything that doesn't happen in ten minutes.
     
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    These particular drug dealers responsible for the opioid crisis are sitting in boardrooms. They won't even be fined lunch money, much less have their lives ended.
     
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    at this point I think Trump job is to say crazy things, while others do the real work, nothing Trump says becomes reality

    yes, the left did not like the Trump's tax cuts for the rich, we thought the middle class should of got bigger permanent tax cuts... but Trump is the President... though not sure what that has to do with this topic

    executing prohibitionist is crazy
     
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    What, you don't even know who you support? What a shock. How do you vote? Do you just toss dice?

    Trump wants to murder anyone related to a terrorist; after plenty of torture.



    Innocent. No. Guilty of murder? No, no more than the guy selling booze at the liquor store.

    The point is, I knew trumpers would soon be out to kill people.

    Next up, public executions televised as entertainment.
     
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    Seems Duterte has been wearing off on the Orange Anus.

    We already have a template for how to solve the opioid crisis.

    Step 1. Legalize Marijuana.
    Step 2. End the drug war.

    But nooooo, American exceptionalism dictates a loud mouthed, petulant minority insists on making criminals out of people for no good reason, all the while the truth behind their fake crusade is that big pharma bought their representatives and sold them out like the whores they are.

    We cannot punish our way out of this. We tried that. It backfired. Bigly.
     
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    Fox News will show a few black guys being put in jail, Trump will declare victory, and the companies which flooded our country with addictive pills will reap record profits.
     
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    Congress shall pass no law to put to death drug dealers.

    Sounds good, but realistically, I am of the opinion it won't happen.
     
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    ironically coke used to be sold as Coca Cola... the world survived it just fine... everything can be abused, stop punishing people that do not abuse

    just cause some can't handle their alcohol and get addicted doesn't mean we outlaw it
     
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    If you distribute death with fentanyl or jacked up heroin or opioids the authorities should take you out with what you dished out. Even if you're wearing a white lab coat or a corporate blue suit.
     
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    Step one would not stop step 2.
     
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    Dude, just stop. You just sound ignorant and whiny.
     
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    Not to worry, the Sacklers and the pharma industry is doing nicley with this "epidemic".

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a12775932/sackler-family-oxycontin/

    Overcoming Opioid Overdose in Rural America
    https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2015/09/21/overcoming-opioid-overdose-rural-america

    "Never Trumpers"? Not qutte.
     
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    Totally disagree...Every one I've seen given the death penalty, has cried like a baby on route to the death chamber. Even this latest pile of crap school shooter Nikolas Cruz is trying hard to get life and removing the death penalty from the table.

    If the death penalty was always given in cases when there is zero doubt the person incarcerated committed the crime and a time limit stating it had to be carried out within a year, this would definitely in my opinion stop a lot these heinous acts from happening.

    As it is now, most criminals aren't worried about it much knowing there's a fifty fifty chance their slick lawyers will get them life or worse case scenario if they do get the death penalty, it won't happen for at least fifteen years.
     
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    There appears to be confusion between drug dealers and opiod dealers. Selling pot classifies one as a drug dealer.
     
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    Exactly.

    Cocaine (and many other drugs) can be used effectively without causing addiction.
     
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    At least they'll be off the street in the meantime. I also think it should depend on the amount or class schedule being dealt. I wouldn't execute a weed dealer.
     
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    Is that why there's a boat load of dead bodies surrounding the Clintons?
     
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