Trump Celebrates 'Fantastic Evening' of Endorsed Candidate Wins

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  1. doombug

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    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/trump-primary-candidates/2022/08/24/id/1084395/

    Looks like Trump backed candidates are winning despite all the garbage propaganda from the haters.

    Trump is only one person and one person cannot make the needed changes to our government that is needed. The DOJ needs to be overhauled, just as an example. More Trump judges are needed as well. The SCOTUS has been vastly improved but needs more improvement.

    Things are moving in the right direction.
     
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    I personally welcome Trump aligned wing-nuts being sent to the general elections. Imagine if Dems had to run against sane candidates not marked with the Orange Hand of Trump.
     
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    Yea, they would actually have to run on their successful policies. Who wants to do that when the majority of Americans think the country (under democrats) is on the wrong track?
     
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    They’re fine on policy. They struggle against right-wing culture war nonsense.
     
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    I often do follow the primary nights more closely, but I wasn't paying much attention last night so this is interesting news to me. No doubt, the percentage of those endorsed by Trump and then winning the nomination has been extremely high.
     
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    You think the majority of Americans are ignorant? I guess that's better than calling them deplorables.
     
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    Be careful what you wish for. There's supposed to be a red wave coming in November.
     
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    Eh, they're winning on the basis of garbage propaganda purely among voters who consume and regurgitate said garbage propaganda.

    They're going to be aborted in the general election. :)
     
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    Nope. The Radical Right has aborted it, if you catch my drift.
     
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    Democrats do not savor the prospects of the midterms. Whichever Party controls the White House recognizes the historic pattern.

    Nevertheless, the quality of individual candidates matters, and Minority Leader McConnell's candid acknowledgement that the GOP has a problem in that regard is telling.


    One of the advantages that the out-party usually has in a midterm year is its ability to recruit strong candidates, while the president's party often has a harder time with that. This year we've seen the opposite. Just to focus on a few key Senate races in states that Biden won narrowly in 2020:

    In Pennsylvania, Republican Mehmet Oz has been trailing Democrat John Fetterman substantially. Oz has proven to be a poor campaigner and is struggling with claims that he is not truly of the state, while Fetterman's campaign (especially his social media game, for whatever that's worth) looks like something for the history books.

    In Georgia, Republican Herschel Walker has also proven a poor challenger to Democrat Raphael Warnock. Walker simply has a difficult time speaking coherently. Polls there are essentially tied.

    In Arizona, Blake Masters has issued a number of statements indicating a general hostility to democracy. He is now trailing the Democratic incumbent, Mark Kelly.
    Notably, all three of these Republican nominees were endorsed by Donald Trump... To be sure, Trump isn't the only reason the GOP is recruiting celebrities, authoritarians, and conspiracy theorists lately, but he's surely the most influential person in the party pushing for that.

    [https://www.mischiefsoffaction.com/post/forecast-models-off]
    Beyond the GOP nominating less-than-stellar candidates, it must be conceded that Democrats have been on a legislative roll of late with a major infrastructure
    bil and just having passed the Inflation Reduction Act, a major climate, health-care and tax bill.

    Meanwhile, Republican candidates are running with a pantload of trumpery, as the Loser's various scandals command the headlines.

    An extremist lurch to rampant statism in the abrogation of a woman's freedom is yet another burden for Republicans to bear, of course.


     
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    I'm not surprised. Republican registered voters elected Trump backed candidates. He can celebrate now, but the real celebration will be when/if those same candidates win against Dem candidates. My guess, supported by the evidence in NY earlier this week, is that the Trumpier the candidate the larger the Dem voter turnout.
     
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    Nobody gets out the vote like Donald Trump. We saw in 2020 that he got the vote out very well, he just got more of the people out to vote against him than for him.

    We'll see if that same pattern repeats itself. Admittedly though, this will be a harder battle than 2020 because the Dems have little to run on and Trump himself is not on the ballot.
     
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    As the Cry Baby Loser is being exposed in various legal venues (largely by Republicans under oath), the one thing about which Democrats and RINOs of Trumpery concur is that the Lardass Messiah should pervade the fall elections like pachyderm flatulence in a phone booth.

    Both Democrats and RINOs of Trumpery are delighted with the Mar-a-Lago national security risk extorting the GOP nomination processes.


    Poll after poll continues to show that the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade is widely unpopular... Democratic engagement in the post-Dobbs era has jumped considerably. In the four special elections since the June 28th Supreme Court decision, Democrats have outperformed 2020 results by as many as 6 points

    Then, there's Trump... [M]ost of the other high-profile Senate candidates are embracing him. For the last few weeks, Trump and his ungrounded claims of voter fraud have dominated the political and media discourse. July has been dominated by coverage of January 6th commission hearings,... the FBI discovery of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, and Trump's ongoing legal troubles in Fulton County, Georgia. The party out of power — rather than the in-party — is in the spotlight.

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    The more Trump is in the news, the more dangerous the political climate for the GOP.

    While neither Biden nor Trump are popular, Trump is the more polarizing. New polling from NBC News finds Trump's net favorable ratings to be twice as bad as Biden's. That same dynamic is showing up in swing states like Arizona, where a recent FOX News poll finds Trump's net favorable at -20 to Biden's -10, and Wisconsin, where the FOX poll showed Biden's net favorable ratings at (-6) compared with Trump's (-10).

    [https://www.cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/flip-script]
     
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    True, Trump endorsed candidates had a banner day. But Trump’s influence is only in the Republican party and not with the general public or the voters of all America. Many of Trump’s endorsed candidates that won are of poor quality and make poor general election candidates when more than just Republicans go to the polls. It’s one thing to win one’s own party primary, another thing to win in the general elections.


    Consider that in a year that should be a red wave across the board, the historical average for a party whose president is hovering around a 40% overall job approval is the lost of 48.5 house seats, 6 senate seats and 5 governorships. Using today’s numbers, yes, the GOP should retake the house with a gain of 18-20 seats. Far below the 48.5 historical standard. But the Republicans are about to lose 2-3 senate seats and 3-4 governorships. Losing senate seats and governorships is basically unheard of for the party out of power when a president’s approval rating is around 40%.


    Perhaps the Republicans should be asking why? Why no red wave? The answer is simple, Trump. Independents don’t like him and they are very hesitant to vote for Trump backed candidates or a party led by Trump. Republicans aren’t attracting independents that they need to win this November. The GOP is still the smaller of the two major parties, hence, they must win the independent vote or lose the election. Trump is turning off a lot of independents from voting GOP this year. One doesn’t need to be a political rocket scientist to see that. It’s right in front of everyone’s face. But Trump is the Republicans problem. Failure of the GOP to realize this and to solve the problem is leading to the Republicans to have the worst midterm going back decades, perhaps more when there is a president hovering around 40% overall approval. This in fact may be a first.
     
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    ... Of the more than 200 Republicans Mr. Trump has endorsed this year, many ran unopposed or faced little-known, poorly funded opponents.

    He has also waited to make some endorsements until a front-runner emerges, strategically picking the candidates most likely to win — as with his last-minute endorsement of Tudor Dixon in Michigan’s primary for governor.

    I...n one exception to the trend, Representative Dan Newhouse, who also supported Mr. Trump’s impeachment, advanced over his Trump-endorsed opponent, Loren Culp, thanks largely to Washington State’s open primary system.


    Kinda like a general election will do? lol
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/23/us/politics/trump-endorsed-candidates.html

    Paywall bypass link
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    the GOP gave the wheel of the republican car to donald J trump and trump is still attempting to drive the car with FLAT tires, a sane person sees trump as the most divisive big character out there, his supporters still dont understand, this temporary distress to the country is not a good thing, however all this crap will eventually FLUSH down...America is a great country despite themselves
     
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    Trump is a force, and significantly he is one they have little if any control over, so they just try to work around him and anticipate him. They beg and grovel before him in a twisted realization of his role in the Celebrity Apprentice. They're desperate not to cross him, desperate to win his endorsement since losing it probably means losing the primary and therefore any prospects at election.

    Donald Trump thus controls a national political party. It's Donald's world and they're all just living in it.

     
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    Perceptive assessment.

    It's the perfect storm for Republicans, Trump wielding the power to crush nominees attuned to reality, the integrity of the democratic process, and the importance of national security, refusing to embrace his Big Lie even as he sinks in his cesspool of legal reckonings.

    His delivering Georgia to the Democratic Party for control of the Senate, having already lost the House, was a demonstration of his dominance before so much has been and continues to be exposed - largely through the sworn testimony of Republican officeholders and Trump regime insiders.

    What is underscored is the disparate agendas and priorities of conservative Republicans and the RINOs of Trumpery. An outhouse divided against itself cannot stand, as the best lack all conviction while the worst are full of passionate intensity.

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    Pragmatic Republicans support electable Republicans.
    Weird worshipers answer to a much lower standard.



     
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    Yeah, a lot of Republicans here in Georgia blame Trump for the loss of its two senate seats. Hence, even Republicans went against Trump with Kemp and Raffensperger winning easily in their Republican Primary. Then one can look at the polls for the upcoming general election, Kemp, a Trump enemy has the lead over Abrams while Trump endorse Walker trails Democrat Warnock.


    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/governor/ga/georgia_governor_kemp_vs_abrams-7538.html


    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/senate/ga/georgia-senate-walker-vs-warnock-7329.html


    The big reason is independents like Kemp, he’s been a good governor in my opinion while disliking Walker a Trump chosen nominee. Trump endorsed, chosen candidates are having a hard time nationwide and is not isolated to Georgia for the general election. Look at PA, WI, AZ, NC, OH to name a few.
     
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    Trump is on the way down. Americans, other than his weird worshipers, having had more than enough of his sordid act. His whining about his stolen "Landslide!," for which he can contrive no credible evidence, only becomes more tiresome as his various illegal activities come to fruition.

    It is remarkable that so many Republican politicians were so weak in kowtowing to his blatant lies when he had lost the GOP the House, the Senate, and the popular vote for the presidency twice, his only criterion for restraint from petty vendetta being mindless adoration.
     
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    Most politicians first rule is that of self-preservation. Trump has a good hold on the GOP base voters. Probably around 65% of the GOP base. If the elected Republicans don’t kowtow to Trump, they know their chances for winning in the Republican primaries is small as they’ll be primaried out. The odds of winning in the general election is diminished, but at least they’ll get the chance to participate in the general.
     
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    Selling one's soul to the devil should command a higher price.

    The moral collapse of spineless toadies like McCarthy was painful to watch. He won't be able to censor the history books.

     
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    It is astounding that a one-term POTUS who lost the popular vote in 2016 by 2.9 million, put up relentlessly dismal numbers throughout the four years of his regime, lost his Party the House and Senate as well as the presidency (his hat trick the first since Hoover's), was twice impeached, is deeply enmeshed in multiple scandals, and remains delusional regarding the last election that he lost by over 7 million votes, has so many little Republican testicles in a vice-like grip via threats of petty vendettas, strident tantrumps, and raw, unfiltered vengeance.

    Of course, he built a "big, beautiful wall!" and made Mexico pay for it, replaced 'ObamaCare' with "something terrific that covers everybody at less cost!," lost only 2.9 million jobs, raising U.S. unemployment by 1.6%, bloated the national debt by a few trillion bucks, increased the national trade deficit, and did that Jackson Pollack thing with the ketchup.

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    The numero uno reason he has them in a vice is his enormous cult of personality with the voting public. The selfish cowards who call themselves Republicans but bend the knee to Trump are too afraid of losing their cushy government jobs and all of the perks that come with them to trumpism if they step out of line. They lack leadership to unite against Trump; they're divided and afraid to stick their necks out. This is why I posted the Twilight Zone video, of course. It is the very same situation.

    And all of this is, of course, why today's so-called Republican party is more fascistic than democratic or republican. Fascism is built around charismatic strong-man leaders who appeal directly to the public and set themselves up as their savior and champion, the one who will make them great if they will only offer their undying loyalty and support, and one who uses all manner of divisive, tribalistic, racist, undemocratic lies to win that that support and devotion. It is based on promises, empty boasts and vicious lies attacking the opposition. His name for the press is the very same name Hitler and his party had for the press -- fake news / Lügenpresse. Trump and his craven RINO supporters use Putinist and Nazi disinformation tactics on the American people, and the result is the same -- growing extremism and hatred among the American people.

    The best outcome we can hope for is Trump finally being disqualified from running, though this will not stop the RINO party he has given rise to from fawning over another strong man, another American Mussolini/Hitler/Putin who likewise promises them some kind of greatness and some kind of harm to those Americans whom they hate and fear on the basis of vile lies.
     
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    I have long viewed that episode of Twilight Zone as capturing the essence of Trumpery. Thank you for posting the eery portent.

    His weird worshipers are hysterical, but can contrive no excuses for their lord and master in his blithely flouting national security concerns. Their death threats against public servants is consistent with their savaging outnumbered police at the Capitol defending elected representatives and democracy itself.

    Citizen Trump absconded with and stashed classified documents.

    He was put on notice by the U.S. Government that his possession of such sensitive materials, for which he has contrived no explanation, was reckless and illegal

    He persisted in retaining the documents whilst lying about his having made total restitution, until the FBI finally executed a search warrant and recovered them.

    The adjudication of this and his other crimes will coincide with the fall elections. Having demonstrated his impotence in handling the truth in the 2020 election, he now revels in all elections being about him, his capacity for herding his lickspittles, and his ability to intimidate weak, unprincipled candidates into parroting his baseless sniveling.

    This time, he will come close to realizing his narcissistic dream that all elections will be about him.
     

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