Trump. Crazy like a fox?

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  1. robini123

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    Perhaps Trump is crazy like a fox. I wonder if he has read The Prince by Machiavelli or The Art of War by Sun Tzu? If so it would make sense and perhaps explain his tactics.

    In debate I try to control the flow and the narrative as it gives me the advantage. It is much harder to turn the tide of a debate if your opponent has you back on your heels. I think Trump knows this full well and uses it to great effect. While I employ ethical tactics bound to morality, Trump does not seem to be bound by morals... very Machiavellian.

    I think Trump has a deep understanding of human nature and knows what buttons to push to get a predictable response which he then turns to his advantage. On the flip side he may be batshit crazy and we all should fear for our lives. Time will tell which narrative is closer to reality, I am hoping that it is the former rather than the latter.
     
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    He does have a way of driving the Left nuts..........
     
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    I think the batsh*t crazy part is that people voted for him and support him.
     
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    In a choice between two evils we tend to pick the devil we know. I think many Trump supporters are more interested in results than the method used to get those results.
     
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    The alternative was so much worse. At least Trump knows what regular Americans want.
     
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    The bats**t crazy part is that half this country hates the place that gave them everything, hate their country's founding and want it destroyed.

    If the Russians colluded with Trump to keep Hillary out of office then that just means Russians love America more than Democrats.
     
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    Trump certainly does know how to get under the left's skin. And he shows how simplistic it is.



    Twiddly tweet.....tweet, tweet.
     
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    Trump is mentally ill, a loose cannon, but his followers are slow to realize.
    Many of them obviously rode to school on a short bus.
    short-bus-243553.jpg
     
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    How silly of me to think the objective of any prez is to govern wisely, not irritate the majority.
     
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    By now the whole world knows Trump is mentally ill.
     
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    I am constantly astonished how many people consider this a positive attribute....
    I have never heard of a negotiating book that suggests the best strategy is constantly annoy the other side and to present yourself as an unreliable, ill informed, and insulting negotiating partner.

    Thing is, trump not only goes out of his way to annoy liberals... he freely insults republicans whose votes he needs to get legislation passed. It is a form of brilliance that evades the comprehension of most people.
     
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    If your enemy is of choleric temper, irritate him.
     
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    Because what drives the left crazy is referred to as the right thing to do.

    The crazier they get, the more feedback we receive.
     
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    Actually, he's being far more transparent and far more Constitutional than Obama ever was.

    There is no comparison.

    But generally, yes, results are the most important thing when you're the POTUS.
     
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    Is that what you thought.....You leftists should have thought about that before trying to delegitimize his presidency.
     
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    No kiddin. Trump has always been very vindictive, but the amusing part is using Twitter to bayonet the wounded. I think it's brilliant. :grin:
     
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    Yep.....a few tweets early in the morning and Trump causes the MS media to change up their whole agenda. :lol:
     
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    Well no one accused the left of being bright. If they simply commended Trump once in a while some of this would simply go away. But no.........they continue to beat the dog. Our personal Rotweiller. :banana:
     
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    You people not only hate the majority of Americans, but America and Democracy too. It's amazing, but 20 years of propaganda from
    Faux News and Hate Radio has definitely worked. And now you celebrate the Daily (mis)Adventures of Donnie Trump.
     
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    Trump only knows what Trump wants.
     
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    Yeah Russia, Putin and other despots are fine with you people, while you hate the vast majority of Americans. And
    all coastal cities on the Atlantic and Pacific coast. Got it.
     
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    I think Scott Adams has said the same thing. He thinks he can read trump and see a method in the madness. For me, I dunno. But time will tell, surely. For the sake of working and middle class americans, I want to see him succeed, even when I cannot stand the personality of this man. I did not vote for him. And yet, he campaigned on some things an FDR dem would agree with. But the trick is if he can deliver. Personally I doubt it, but I surely hope so.
     
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    Like Trump can really read, let alone sit down and interpret a book. Not. Going. To Happen....He has the attention span of a flea.
    Yet his followers believe him capable of all sorts of magical acts.
     
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    Well, to this FDR kinda ex dem, this russia fear mongering is just silly. Russia is no more evil than the US is. And they are not in our league economically, nor in the ability to wage war. They spend 70 billion on defense, while we spend a trillion on war mongering. And russia is evil, despotic? Yes, to those who are not up to par on reality.
     
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    Well, I am not one of his voters, but one thing I do know. Depending upon you or others like you to render an objective evaluation just will never happen. lol. Not that his voters are capable of that either. I think I can, but it is far too early. For I have no dog in this hunt. I supported sanders. The only FDR dem to run since JFK. Well, he was a dem for awhile. lol
     

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