Trump demanded Secret Service let rally attendees in with weapons

Former President Donad Trump knew many of his supporters in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 6 were armed and demanded that they be let into a secure area at his rally, Cassidy Hutchingon, a former aide to Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, said at a Jan. 6 hearing Tuesday.

"He thought the mags were at fault for not letting everybody in. But another leading reason, likely the primary reason, is because he wanted it full and he was angry that we weren't letting people through the mags with weapons -- what the Secret Service deems as weapons," she said in recorded testimony Tuesday.

"I was in the vicinity of a conversation where I overheard the president say something to the effect of, you know, 'I don't f-ing care that they have weapons,'" she also said via video. "'They're not here to hurt me. Take the f-ing mags away. Let my people in. They can march the Capitol from here. Let people in, take the f-ing mags away.'"

Hutchinson also said former Deputy Chief of Staff Tony Ornato had told Trump something to the effect of, "They they have weapons they don't want confiscated by the Secret Service."

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/jan-6-committee-watch-live-tuesday-hearing

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All the fanciful theories of the MAGA are being destroyed one by one at the 1/6 Commission.

Under oath, a Trump aide just said that he wanted the Secret Service to let his armed supporters into the Capitol grounds.

A testimony confirmed by Kayleigh McEnany.

Trump is nothing less than a terrorist.

 

If true, which 99.99 percent chance it isnt, he was probably concerned over the level of care leftwing SS would provide. He like others knows how radical leftist can be.

 

The BEST testimony was that T**** PHYSICALLY tried to take over the steering of the Presidential Limo (The Beast) to go to the Capitol and had to be PHYSICALLY RESTRAINED....

My wife and I both cracked up at that....

Great stuff, there...

 

I think the testimony is that he wanted them to let his armed supporters into his rally space at the Ellipse... Begged them, in fact, for the typical T**** reason that his rally space wasn't filled to capacity.

But WHAT did he think his armed supporters were going to do with their arms when they did go to the Capitol??

 

Once again forgetting the little detail that said take the mags away from them, that they weren't there to harm him. Always nuggets left out. I agree Trump was so dumb that he wanted to let guys into his rally even with unloaded guns. The rest of todays hearings are he wanted to go to the capital, to possibly give a speech or to even go inside. Seriously, diminishes the thought Trump was planning on the violence in and around the capital because there's no way he would've put himself in that danger.

 

Over to you Garland!

 

Except that he stated they weren't there to hurt him.

 

Like I've been saying, worse than Benedict Arnold.

 

Do you know what we call this? In legalese, it's called second and third hand testimony. It's unreliable and can't really be collaborated(and no, them being under oath doesn't solve that problem. Were I Trump's defense lawyer, that's the low hanging fruit to bite first.). Furthermore, we have to interpret what the testimony even means. For those on the left, it means he 'planned' the insurrections, but as @hawgsalot points out, Trump told them to confiscate the weapons, quite to the contrary of said testimony.

So this too, is a giant nothing burger. Can we please finally end this charade and get back to a legislative form of government?

 

How many people - with first hand account - would have to corroborate this testimony for you to believe it?

 

You are looking for a way out.

Three direct witnesses came to say the same thing.

But that won't change anything for you.

Even if Trump had set fire to the Capitol himself, he would not have lost any of his most loyal supporters, including you.

 

If you think for a second that Trump would've put himself in the middle of that mess you're crazy. What Trump wants, always wants is big crowd cheering him on the steps, like other politicians have down during rallies. What I've yet to hear is anything where anyone, had any thought to somehow promote anyone attacking the capital. The biggest issue you I have from all this is there is NO OPPOSITION, there is a reason we have plaintiff's and defendant's, you hear both sides. You can cross examine to dig in to exactly what is fact, what is hearsay, what was feelz and what is real. I can't stand Trump and wish he would go away, but to act like he wanted them to storm the capital seems to be more persecute your political enemy versus some super plot to overthrow the government. I'm stoked that this should hurt Trump's chances to run again though.

 

Got it. So you will need to hear Trump say the words, "Attack the Capitol" for you to believe any culpability?

 

Traditionally, we'd like to cross examine the witness but as noted by others that's not what this forum is. This forum is one where the statements are taken as fact, unchallenged and worse yet in a public setting. Seriously, Trump's lawyers would have a field day with some of this stuff.

 

Or a written note, or a tape, or SOMETHING. It's that beautiful thing called evidence. And second and third hand statements do not qualify as evidence(well, okay, this technically isn't true. If you build strong enough of a case, circumstantial evidence can but you're going to need a very favorable jury to that argument. And that's a risky proposition.) Add to that that these meetings were made public, and it further undermines the case.

 

It is couched and edited hearsay. Listen to the questions "and your impression of the phone call between those other people was how bad?"

 

As opposed to go and march peacefully, follow the orders of the police.

Yes.

 

The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

 

If you're watching, everyone in his Innercircle was shocked that they were in the capital. If you want to say Trump is a ****** and probably even was happy because he was pissed and thought he really won, then I'll agree. To say he planned and was trying to incite these idiots then sorry I have to disagree. Today you heard he wanted to go to the capital to give a speech, you've heard that all the inner circle panicked when violence broke out, certainly not that they planned or hoped it would. BIG DIFFERENCE

 

Since when is hearsay admissible?
Since when is someone taking the 5th amendment to be consider an admission of some guilt?

This committee is violating the rights of persons who may be charged with crimes and those persons attorney's will go to court and point to the fact that the government has prejudiced any potentional jury pool with their statements and declarations that those taking their constitutional protections proves they are guilty require the dropping of all charges.

 

Three witnesses, people close to Trump, said exactly the same thing.

 

A direct source is not hearsay.

When you hear someone say something, it is a direct source.

 

Ill wait and see if any convictions come forth. I hope you apologize to this forum when none do, mainly for wasting bandwith and peoples time.

 

Trump's own words: “You see the mob takes the Fifth,” he said. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

 

Exactly. All this he should have done something is nonsense. He tweeted three times to no effect. Those who were so worked up in their violence were not staring at their phones, there was no on/off switch Trump could have thrown. Yes there was panick in the WH as to what they could and should or should not do. And the fact is had he gone there and personally stood in the door and said stop that would only have been used by the Dems to say SEE he WAS the LEADER!!!

That what happens when you don't have a hearing but a propaganda spectacle. I have no idea what this EMERGENCY session accomplished.

And now Cheney is reading unidentified "witness statements" of phone calls by unidentified callers " that they should do some "right thing" and be a "team player". This stuff would be kicked out of a court in a heartbeat.

Trump did wrong that day, I said so that day. He should never had held the rally that day. He should have given up on the election. He should not have used the same EV challenges that Dems have used in the past to contest the voting. But nothing criminal, nothing we didn't know before.