Trump Directed Cohen To Lie To Congress About The Moscow Tower Projec

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "President Donald Trump directed his longtime attorney Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about negotiations to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, according to two federal law enforcement officials involved in an investigation of the matter.

    Trump also supported a plan, set up by Cohen, to visit Russia during the presidential campaign, in order to personally meet President Vladimir Putin and jump-start the tower negotiations. “Make it happen,” the sources said Trump told Cohen."

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...ssia-cohen-moscow-tower-mueller-investigation
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    That's a big no-no. The kind of thing that can get you impeached.
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    Articles of Impeachment

    3. approving, condoning, acquiescing in, and counselling witnesses with respect to the giving of false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States and false or misleading testimony in duly instituted judicial and congressional proceedings;

    http://watergate.info/impeachment/articles-of-impeachment
     
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to Cohen, and admitted liar.
     
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    No. The story is Cohen confirmed what was already known. Apparently the conspirators were sloppy in their communications.
     
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  4. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Try reading the article.

    "The special counsel’s office learned about Trump’s directive for Cohen to lie to Congress through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents. Cohen then acknowledged those instructions during his interviews with that office.

    This revelation is not the first evidence to suggest the president may have attempted to obstruct the FBI and special counsel investigations into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election."
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cohen had previously said he lied to Congress, but not at Don's direction.

    "The House Judiciary Committee had already voted to advance articles of impeachment against Nixon to the full House, including one focused on obstruction of justice and Nixon’s having “engaged personally and through his close subordinates and agents, in a course of conduct or plan designed to delay, impede, and obstruct the investigation” into the Watergate incident. Nixon’s position was untenable and he resigned, preventing any impeachment from happening."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...truction-bill-clinton/?utm_term=.0cae370730a2
     
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    Fake news.
     
  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While that assertion is persuasive with the minions I don't think it's going to cut it when Mueller comes calling.
     
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    14 Republican senators are on-record holding a president accountable for obstruction: Bill Clinton

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...truction-bill-clinton/?utm_term=.0cae370730a2

    "What’s interesting about that vote 20 years ago, though, is that there are still a number of members of Congress who were around at that point and supported punishing Clinton for obstruction of justice — including 14 Republican senators."
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    Could Repub hypocrisy become so egregious that these 14 now senators who voted to impeach Clinton for obstruction of justice will refuse to vote to impeach Trump for the same crime? The chances become less likely the lower in the polls Don falls.
     
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    Lies drip off Trump's tongue damn near every time the traitor opens his mouth.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Clearly this is true. And so far there has been little to no consequence..........at least among the minions.

    This is different. If Don told Cohen to lie in his congressional testimony it is an open and shut case of obstruction of justice.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's possible Ivanka and Donnie J also go down with the ship at least in the sense of reputational damage to the brand.

    "Cohen also declined comment — but the law enforcement sources familiar with his testimony to the special counsel said he had confirmed that Trump directed him to lie to Congress, and also that he had provided details of his conversations about the project with the president and Ivanka and Donald Jr.

    Those three members of the Trump family have distanced themselves from the Moscow project, saying that they had little knowledge of the negotiations. But a picture of their deep involvement is now emerging, as FBI agents and prosecutors pore over witness interviews and internal documents from Cohen and other Trump Organization officials and executives."

    We'll have to see if Donnie J perjured himself in congressional testimony on this subject.
     
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    "Fake news" has become the parroted "pc" euphemism for "Oh, sh¡t!" for TrumpBots.

    Meanwhile, it's great to see Rudy back! His setting up Junior and Kushy by implicating "others" in the campaign colluding with Putin's agents is precious!

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    Unless I'm missing something, this represents the first time the public has become aware of hard, corroborated evidence of obstruction of justice in Mueller's possession.

    From the article.............

    "The special counsel’s office learned about Trump’s directive for Cohen to lie to Congress through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents."
     
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    Unnamed sources from an outlet that has had totally false articles = hard, corroborated evidence. Liberal Logic 101.
     
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    For a "witch hunt!" - as lying Don had proclaimed the Trump Justice Department Special Counsel's patriotic mission at least 130 times - it appears to be proceeding quite nicely.

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    More denial? Really. I guess you gotta go with the only thing you have.
     
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    Unnamed sources. So far 'this is the end for Trump' every month since the November 2016 election based on unnamed sources.
     
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    We are moving to a new phase where we start asking not if he is guilty, but of how many crimes?
     
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    The only ones asking that are the severe TDS sufferers.
     
  21. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I certainly haven't said that. I've maintained since the beginning Mueller had more than the cultists wanted to acknowledge, but that we'd have to wait for the issuance of the report to see if he could prove impeachable offenses.
    This is the first time there is corroborated evidence of obstruction the public is aware of. It may not be the only crime Mueller can prove.
     
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    Nothing berder!!!!!!!!
     
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    Exactly what about the prez obstructing justice by telling his lawyer to lie to Congress regarding the Russia investigation is a nothingburger?
     
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    It was a joke dude. Notice how I spelled burger?
     
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    My bad. I mistook you for a member of the Cult of Denial.
     

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