Trump Doctrine 2.0: Former president lays out plan to reverse Biden agenda

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  1. MJ Davies

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    Exactly! If we did, he'd be silenced. Who the hell has a public temper tantrum for a year and a half and counting?

    He won't sit down or shut up. (I have to admit that I still laugh about Melania giving him the silent treatment. It was reported that it drives him bonkers when she won't talk to him. Poor dear. I hope her contract is worth it).
     
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    Trump Doctrine 2.0: Former president lays out plan to reverse Biden agenda

    He might want to walk back Biden's shipments of arms into Ukraine, and invitation of Ukraine into NATO, totally contrary to the promise G H Bush, Germany and NATO made to Gorbechev.


     
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    Who cares about promises made to Gorbachev?
     
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    Trump wants Trump TV, Like North Korea
     
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    Trump sued Stormy for talking about what she knew about the President when he was President
     
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    Sooooooo. No real actual agenda just “Let’s undo what anyone else has done”

    Correct?
     
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    Yeah! Faux has a.lot to answer for
     
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    Every president has had their issues with the press, but Trump, even in his book, "The Art of the Deal" has called the press "the enemy of the people." That is not legitimate criticism of the press, it is an attempt to make the press agreeable to him and his policies, never criticizing or questioning his actions.
     
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    Agreed. The “Fifth Estate” is an essential political tool that should be maintained so that we can, and I will use a pithy Aussie saying about this

    “keep the bastards honest”
     
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    Old dope Don is acting out his megalomanic delusions of granduer.
     
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    Once again, I say, if you can't take criticism you shouldn't go into politics. Trump was under the impression - because of his rallies and public praising - that he wouldn't get criticized. And when he did, he lost it. He threw temper tantrums on Twitter and made an ass of himself with pseudo press conferences. At the very least, a POTUS should act with some respect and decorum - but he couldn't.
     
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    Saying "fake News" is not criticism. It's just more gaslighting.

    Hate is never justifiable.
     
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    Russiagate was absolutely fake news, defamatory, and malevolent. As was the golden showers lie. As was their swallowing of the preposterous Jussie Smollet case. As was their swallowing of Julie Ann Swetnick and Michael Avenatti's lies about his nominee, Bret Kavanaugh. Every single time, they swallowed it whole. Every one of them except Fox and Newsmax, I think it's called. Why is that?

    An example. In the first days of January 2017, the so-called Steele dossier was circulating among senior members of Obama's administration. It falsely alleged a "well-developed conspiracy" between President-elect Donald Trump and Russia. It falsely alleged that a Putin associate in Russia offered a low-level Trump campaign aide a huge bribe to end U.S. sanctions against Russia. It falsely alleged that Trump fixer Michael Cohen met with Russians in Prague to plot collusion. And it falsely alleged that Russian intelligence had a so-called "pee tape," a video of private citizen Trump watching prostitutes perform a "golden showers" sex act in a Moscow hotel room in 2013.

    Obama's top aides thought the Steele dossier was so important that it should be brought to the president's attention. Here is an excerpt from Russian Roulette, in which journalists Michael Isikoff and David Corn described an Oval Office meeting in January 2017:

    [National security adviser Susan] Rice had encouraged [Director of National Intelligence James] Clapper during the daily intelligence briefing to tell Obama about the "golden showers" allegation. Obama turned to Rice and said, "Why am I hearing this?" He was incredulous. "What's happening?" he asked. Rice said the intelligence community had no idea if this story was true but that Obama needed to be aware the allegation was circulating. "You don't really expect to hear the term 'golden showers' in the President's Daily Brief," a participant in this meeting later said, "or that the guy who is going to become president may be a Manchurian candidate."

    Just days later, through a series of leaks, the dossier became public. The disinformation became a major part of public conversation about Trump for years to come.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/obamas-partisan-disinformation-campaign

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/818991755584503809

    There was never any doubt in the mainstream media that every word of it was true, and so they broadcast it and re-broadcast it to the point where anyone who doubted was deemed retarded, a fascist enabler, or worse. These "reporters" are still celebrated as heroes in DC and among the liberal commentariat.

    I forgive Trump for hating them.
     
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    The media is in the business of getting people's attention and skewing their information however the people that pay them tell them do it. That's why there are so many media outlets. They all have their own agenda. I don't believe it's fair to claim one side is less honest than the other simply because you agree with them.
    I was not paying attention politics at the time all this happened. From what I've learned since I started back paying attention, I have no doubts this is not false information. My reason is simple: Leopards don't change spots.
    I agree that it's bizarre for that to be mentioned to then-POTUS Obama. Again, I don't believe Trump is telling the truth and the hoopla obviously didn't matter because he was elected.
    I don't watch television. I don't get it's appeal at all. Nevertheless, I believe this says more about **us** than it does about them.
    OK.
     
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    So would most of us (be miserable with him as Speaker) I just hope he comes to that conclusion about the Presidency. He's like a Great Shadow hanging over us for now.
     
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    Of course not. I am just trying to show that every Trump story from the MSM that turns out to be wrong is anti-Trump. It's never the other way around. And they never apologize when they get one wrong, as they (the media) used to. This is why I recommend turning off cable and network news and reading good print media, like the Wall Street Journal or the Christian Science Monitor.

    You have "no doubt" but that Trump watched prostitutes urinating for entertainment because leopards don't change spots? What spots? What in germaphobic Trump's established history gives credence to this disgusting story? Remember that the incident was supposedly TAPED.

    And don't you see how easy it is to make up a horrible story without sources, especially when an opposition campaign is paying for it?
     
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    I never stated that every story about Trump is false.
    It sounds like you may be overlooking the fact that our society is not conducive to positive or proactive regarding apologies. People that have apologized are usually treated more harshly than the ones that lie and deny their wrongdoing. Example: Stand-up comedian Louis CK.
    Again, you are missing the forest for the trees. You only categorize "WSJ" and "CSM" as **good** because their position aligns with yours. However, other people have the same opinion about their favorite sources of information and deem them to be "good". It is subjective.
    No, I don't have an opinion on Trump's alleged involvement in golden showers. I have doubts about his trustworthiness and veracity. He doesn't have a moral compass.
    Of course. As I stated previously, I don't watch television and I stopped watching the "news" prior to that because of Susan Smith.
     
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    The shadow over your party’s craziness, is our warm rays of competence.
    What is left for Biden to screw up? Outlaw all nonelectric vehicles on Wednesday?
     
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    Because the loudest whining victim attention seeking narcissist needs something to feed the flock so his grift goes on. Self fulfilling prophesy.
     
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    What is with you righties and Hunter Biden? He isn't elected. He wasn't appointed by dad to jobs far beyond him like the trumplets.

    I don't care if he has sex with sheep. His dad is top notch and a great person. And that is who was elected.

    I guess that's what you do when you have nothing on the actual politicians - just go after their kids.
     
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    I don't know. What's with you and the pillow guy? At least he created some jobs.
     
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    as his speech, like all of them, is given wide press coverage.

    "you go trump" .
     

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