Trump ended the rule blocking mentally ill people from getting guns.

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  1. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    Do you know why it is easier for crazy people to kill with guns other people?

    Other people are 'enemy' to them.

    How can they get guns?

    "Nearly a year ago, on Feb. 28, 2017, President Trump signed H.J. Res. 40, effectively ending the Social Security Administration's requirement to enter the names of people who receive mental health benefits into the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. This is the database used by the FBI to determine who is able to purchase firearms."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tru...o-RUWsY7tySDatXcZdQ34283gnOrHEV_zahj-MhDNnZVk

    "President Trump has addressed the nation about mass shootings four times throughout his time in office. On Thursday, President Trump tweeted that the shooter involved in Florida’s Parkland High School tragedy showed signs of being 'mentally disturbed,' and urged for greater awareness for similar cases."
     
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  2. JakeStarkey

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    Once the true Americans are in Congress and the WH again, racism can be declared a mental disease, and such people must turn in their weapons or be caught and turned into a rehabilitation center.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    TRUE TUE TRUE He did that as he did to just about anything that Obama had set up. He obviously hates Obama and anhything that Obama did. That is just another example of the sickness called Trumpism.
     
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    "According to estimates from the previous administration, had the Obama-era regulation gone into effect, an estimated 75,000 individuals with mental illnesses would have been added to the database. These individuals would have been notified by the Social Security Administration of their possible restrictions to buy firearms but would have the opportunity go through an appeal process.

    Although the rule was made effective days before Trump took office in January 2017, compliance was not required until December 2017."
     
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    There was comment yesterday about whether racism can be considered a mental illness. It would be cool if racists were not allowed to have guns.
     
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    "Perhaps more has to be done," he added. "But this is also a mental illness problem if you look at both of those cases. This is mental illness. These are really people that are very, very seriously mentally ill. So a lot of things are happening." DJT
     
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    Comments that ignore or play down racism are antithetical to American values.

    Racists, like any criminal, should not own a gun.
     
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    People getting mental health benefits aren't disallowed from getting firearms....but not sure why Obama decided they are criminals. Glad the current President doesn't treat such people as criminals.

    Why do you think they should be put on criminal list?
     
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    And mental health groups supported. There is a discussion on Fox News as I type and the American Psychological Society opposing and pushing back on talk of red flagging people who are tagged as dangerous or pegioned holed and even the Democrat on the panel saying there is Jo evidence that people undergoing mental health counseling are not more likely to go out and buy a gun and kill people.
     
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    What a stupid title. Obama wanted SS to send their names to the database without ever determining if they were mentally ill or considered violent. Mental health benefits could be for just about anything and have nothing to do with violence.
     
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    Red Flag law = pick up all LW opponents.
     
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    So are you in favor of abolishing Due Process? That is exactly what "Implementation of the NICS Improvement Amendment Act of 2007" did. It removed the Constitutional Rights of people without due process. It lumped anybody that received disability for ANYTHING mentally related and denied these people their Constitutional Rights....WITHOUT DUE PROCESS. I am in favor of people collecting mental disability compensation from SS being added to a database, but DUE PROCESS must be respected prior to any rights being removed. A Judge needs to decide if the individual should have their rights removed, not some pencil pusher in the Social Security office.
     
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    No, he didn't. Anybody mentally ill who has been involuntarily committed to a mental institution (which is how the 1968 Gun Law reads) still is blocked from getting guns.
     
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    If there were a good legal definition of racism, and it was a felony....
     
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    First response brings in race. First response!
     
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    Obsessed with race are ya?
     
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    Tell us who will determine who is mentally ill and should not own a gun.
     
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    totally agree, black racists or white racists, anyone that has publicly shown their fanatical racism and it's well documented should not be allowed to own guns or be cops like the guy that posted a meme saying they would drown their daughter if dating a black man
     
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    Give racists an opportunity: clean up their act, or be DNA tested and then sent into exile to the old sod
     
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    Sounds quite marxist.

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  21. JakeStarkey

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    Ever notice that the far right give opinions as facts, are easily corrected, and then they get mad that their opinions don't rule the world.
     
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    Out of one side of their mouths, the reactionary right yells that it isn’t guns, it’s mental illness.

    Out of the other side comes your post.
     
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    "racism can be declared a mental disease, and such people must turn in their weapons" + Trump supporters are racist = civil war
     
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    Nah, the Trumpers' neighbors will turn them in a heart beat.

    There will be no CW because real Americans will step on those who think they can do it.
     
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    fortunately most americans aren't so naïve as to think that

    just a few short years ago, many on the left were convinced that a right-wing civil war in response to Hillary's innevitable becoming of president was a credible threat.
    https://www.cracked.com/personal-ex...ns-why-new-civil-war-possible-terrifying.html

    why now "There will be no CW"?
     
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