Trump ended the rule blocking mentally ill people from getting guns.

Not to the extent we suffer from it

Your first sentence indicates you are not a serious poster.

 

Can impose the same crap as they have done on full auto weapons.

 

Restrictions on full auto weapons can be justified with a good reason.

Unjustifiable restrictions are forbidden.

 

If you want to compare the US to a fail state where corruption goes through the roof, than fine by me. It still means it's at the back of the line compared to other civilized nations.

 

What does that have to do with allowing self defense because the government cannot eliminate crime?

We have the right to protect against criminals no matter what the crime level is. So a lower crime level would not change anything.

Correctly accusing Democrats of their actual bad behavior does not mean that I'm not a serious poster.

 

I provided a justification for semi auto.

people got massacred by that AR-15 in that example you came up with. The people in El Paso were also killed by an AK style firearm.

I sourced the AR-15 can have a massive magazine.

Indeed.

My source trumps your opinion.

mass murder by assault rifles, according to the definition of my source,... is a good reason to me.

 

That is incorrect. There is no such justification.

Irrelevant. The use of "one ordinary rifle" versus "another ordinary rifle" makes no difference.

All guns that accept detachable magazines can accept a massive magazine. There is nothing special about the AR-15 in this regard.

I did not offer any opinion.

Fraudulent definitions do not trump authentic definitions.

Since there has never been a crime committed with a legally registered assault rifle, clearly the regulations that have been in place for the past 85 years are doing just fine, and there is no need for further restrictions.

 

Was private firearms ownership regarded as being of such great importance to their people, it was actually codified into their national constitutions?

Robbery commits an incident of harm and threat to others without legitimate reason. Personal defense, even when that defense involves a firearm, poses no such risk to anyone other than the one that is committing the incident of harm to others, and should not be considered as the same thing.

 

And yet Donald Trump is president of the united states, despite the majority of the public wanting Hillary Clinton instead. The public was told what they want simply does not matter. Therefore it is entirely appropriate to compare the united states to all other nations.

 

It’s never been challenged. People didn’t own many full autos when it was implemented, so the public didn’t care. MILLIONS of people own the firearms you are wanting to restrict. We won’t let you do it. The first attempt to do so will be taken to court, and you will lose.

 

Go for it. Good luck. It'll never happen.

 

Lots of people making mass murders sounds like a good enough reason to put big restrictions on them.

 

Civilians using them over and over for mass murder, in a way soldiers are also using those weapons as a semi to rage war... sounds like a perfect justification to me.

It's all more or less the same kind of semi's, hence that is relevant.

Besides those kinds of weapons are used over and over to commit mass murder.

It's just your opinion that it some how is "fraudulent"

 

The way elections are held, has nothing to do with the very popular idea among Americans to put a firm restrictions on semi's.
The way elections are held in the US, has nothing to do with how the US compared to the EU with mass murders.
You're just ranting fallacies.

 

Says enough that NRA didn't even bother.

100's of millions don't want you to have them weapons... in this democratic nation. It's only for the poisonous corruptive lobby that the will of the people is being ignored.

 

No it doesn’t. The amount of people affected by the NFA hasn’t warranted a court case. If you try and add all semi auto firearms to the NFA, it will go to court and not only will you lose in the semi auto’s, but the NFA will be overturned and full autos will be back on the market.

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I couldn’t care less what they want me to have or not. I already have them. Nobody can take them from me.

The NRA and gun lobby aren’t even in the top 50 donors, lol.

 

1. I agree that red flag laws would be helpful in the overall response to mass shootings & gun control. But I think having rigid background checks required for EVERY GUN SALE in America is also a necessity.
2. A good idea, & the first time I've seen it mentioned. I agree with the idea & the issue of cost. Perhaps a much cheaper way to store guns safely could be developed?
3. Also a good idea I've never heard mentioned before. I agree.

 

I would agree they are two distinct issues, & shouldn't be statistically included together.

 

The united states is not a first world, developed nation. It is a fallacy to believe otherwise. It is a violent nation where corruption runs rampant and openly at all levels of government.

 

That is incorrect. Mass murderers usually prefer to use handguns in their crimes.

Soldiers use guns with full-auto or burst-fire capability.

But even if ordinary rifles like a semi-auto AR-15 had actually been the weapon of choice for mass murderers, the fact that they are the same as other ordinary rifles still means that there is no justification for singling them out.

That is incorrect. When there is no difference from one ordinary rifle to another, there is no relevance to the fact that any particular model of ordinary rifle is used.

Except they aren't. Mass murderers prefer handguns.

But even if they actually had been the weapon of choice for mass murderers, the fact that they are little different from other ordinary rifles means that it wouldn't matter that they were used. Other ordinary rifles are just as deadly.

It's like trying to outlaw blue cars because a bank robber drove a blue getaway car.

That is incorrect. When people concoct fake meanings for words, that is fraudulent.

 

And where the president imports a pornstar to marry, but f*cks an other pornstar .
So much class.

 

Source it

But also semi

When there is no difference, means they all become matter of the discussion.

Not all rifles are semi or full.

It's just your opinion that it's "fraudulent". It's unfounded, and so dismissed.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/

The ability to fire in full-auto or burst-fire makes a huge difference versus guns that do not have that capability.

What's there to discuss? When there is not a large magazine inserted into them, none of these guns are any problem.

Lever- and pump-action produce aimed fire at nearly the same rate as semi-auto.

That is incorrect. When progressives concoct untrue definitions for words, that is fraudulent.

 

Fair enough. The deadlies are still done with AK kind of weapons. I also noticed that your link says that AK style weapons... and the need to have them for self defense is iffy.

We're not discussing full auto since civilians dont use them for massacres as far as I know. My point stands about semi rifles who can shoot like a weapon of a solder. We're not talking about weapons of soldiers being different. They can shoot with a tank as well... etc. I know.

Yeah. Size of a bullet wouldn't matter.

It aint my definition. I used a source.

 

Until the point Stephen Paddock made the decision to commit his actions, the deadliest mass/school shooting in united states history was the Virginia Tech incident, which was committed with two handguns. It was a record that stood for ten years before the Las Vegas incident took place. The only reason Stephen Paddock managed to do better was due to location, putting him far out of reach of the victims and law enforcement. Had he been down on the ground and forced to be mobile, just like every other mass shooter has been, his number of casualties would have been far lower and easily forgotten about.

Which ultimately means nothing of significance. Semi-automatic rifles have gone on to become the most popular, most commonly owned rifles in the united states, far surpassing all other types that share the market with them. The standard bolt-action rifle, long regarded as the primary type of hunting rifle, is no longer the current standard by which privately owned firearms are measured. For better or worse, the AR-15 and its derivatives are now the rifle of choice in the united states for nearly all legal purposes. That is a fact everyone will simply have to learn to live with and work around, rather than attempting to undo it.