Trump has annouced the government will no longer pay subsidies to insurance companies to provide insurance to low income American consumers. This should result in reducing insurance availability on the exchanges and result is hugh increases in premiums for everyone who can still get insurance. Hope everyone enjoys the great health insurance for everyone that Trump promised during his campaign.
Please provide details and hopefully a link to an article that substantiates the above claims. EDIT: OK here's from Trump directly.. Sounds to me like I can now get myself free of the mandated Obamacare. That's a good thing and will SAVE you lots of money. --pete--
I think you can do your own research instead of just believing what our proven lier in chief says. And yes you will now be able to buy the classic no insurance insurance policy at a much reduced cost and then stick the public with the cost should you ever actually need the insurance.
Here's how short sighted and STUPID the above statement is. By forcing me to be on the exchanges though the Obamacare mandates, I now pay less than $50/month for my Bronze health insurance plan based upon my income level. YOU, my good friend, pay the remaining portion of the $585/month bill. So annually, YOU PAY $6420 for me to be covered and I never even use it. For the past 20+ years, I have learned how to treat myself with extremely lost cost alternative treatments and I practice a healthy & safe lifestyle so that the chances of getting sick or injured are minimal. This means Trump's plan would put $6420 in YOUR POCKET each year. When I say YOUR POCKET, I really mean the tax payers, but for this example I'm just targeting you to make a point. Then if I ever did need healthcare I'd be forced to pay it out of my own savings and assets. So in reality, you are fighting against Tump's plan that would put CASH into your own pocket and you are promoting Obamacare that is taking CASH from you. That's like the dumbest thing I ever heard. I mean really STUPID. Socialism, isn't it great? LOL I support Trump's plan because I can take care of myself and I'm not looking for any handouts, but you force me into your socialist system and I will gladly take every last cent due to me. Socialism, it's just a very bad idea. The only real way to fix healthcare in America is to address the root cause.. Overly priced products and services. Trump's plan will do that, but it's a long term strategy. Most people have no long term vision so they can't see it. --pete--
Insurance isn't a personal savings account for you. Somebody is using that money for their care. That's the point of the system. ...meaning it comes out of the pockets of the doctors, hospitals, and other care providers that it's currently reimbursing for care they've delivered. So what happens then? They stop delivering the care, have layoffs at their facilities, what?
Where did I say I'm saving/banking money? I'm not. Again, what are you talking about. I'm not using any services. I already explained that I don't use mainstream healthcare system. Trump's plan would put money in YOUR pocket because it allow me to withdraw from the exchanges and go back to simply caring for myself. I'm invisible to you. I'm not drawing any services. Get it, friend? --pete--
The $6,420 going into your insurance pool isn't for you, unless you get sick. It's for those in your insurance pool who are sick. In any given year, most people are supposed to put in more than they get out. That's the entire point. Again, it's not about you, until you get sick. Getting your premium dollar back (or the taxpayers getting back whatever portion they cover) means someone else's treatment gets cut off, it means some doctor or hospital no longer gets paid.
Dude, there's no sense talking to you. First off, you are telling me things that any normal adult would already know about how a socialist heathcare system operates and you TOTALLY MISSED the points I was making. No wonder you can't comprehend Trump's plan and strategy. In the mean time, I can't lose. With Obamacare I'm covered and YOU pay for it. With Trumpcare I'm at risk, but I at least I can pull out of the mainstream healthcare system totally. --pete--
Hmm, so Trump following the ACA faithfully is now a bad thing. Go figure. Obama's unconstitutionally added subsidies were overturned. That is Congress job.
And it will make exactly zero difference in total healthcare spending. Well shouldn't actually say that because perhaps a few more people will die prematurely for lack of good healh insurance or preventative testing.
govt paying for insurance is socialism which we know is not efficient Do you know why capitalism works better.
Exactly and the only way to lower cost is with Republican capitalism: people shopping with their own money and providers competing on basis of price and quality. Until liberals let this happen health care will get more and more unaffordble. Every dead person is on liberal hands. Sad. When are liberals going to accept responsibility for the monster they have created?
Trump's plan is good step toward free markets allowing associations to purchase health care and some interstate competition. The man is a genius compared to liberals who have no understanding of the problem at all.
Except as has been repeated demonstrated shopping for healthcare is impossible except in the case of elective surgery. And claiming Liberals have created the American healthcare system is nothing but pure ignorance. The ACA is not the American healthcare system, itbwas an attempt to fix an already seriously flawed system. Even pre ACA the American system consumed a larger percentage of GDP than any system in anynother developed country while at best providing comperable and arguably inferior results. If the Republicans actually had any ideas they had eight years to come up with a plan and they failed.
Trump promised great health insurance for every American. His genius ideas so far will do nothing of the kind. All he is doing so far is reducing the ability of the poor to have insurance. Oh and here is one of his statements that perfectly illustrates his awesome, in depth understanding of how healthcare works: " Because you are basically saying from the moment the insurance, you're 21 years old, you start working and you're paying $12 a year for insurance, and by the time you're 70, you get a nice plan. Here's something where you walk up and say, "I want my insurance." Feel free to explain the brilliance of that Trump statement on how the system works.
First of course the government does not pay for most health insurance so your premise is flawed. Second perhaps you would care to provide an example of a " Capitalist" healthcare system that works.
Here is anothe classic combining Trump's obvious cluelessness about healthcare with information about the effects of selling insurance across state lines: http://www.factcheck.org/2017/07/selling-insurance-across-state-lines/ Now we know of course that factcheck is a commie red liberal conspiracy but that aside try to provide any facts to dispute what the article says.
Like a federal judge found, the payments cannot be paid without Congrssional appropriation. It's called the law.
No, as all good Conservatives know it is judicial activism. Laws in case you are unaware are passed by Congress and signed by the President or passed with an override. And the federal judges ruling is under review and not in effect. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...56bd5568db8_story.html?utm_term=.5ba094e34b87
Reading comprehension issues? This decision only allows the left wing attorney generals to enter the lawsuit. One of them, Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, is also under fire for the ill fated RICO 20 lawsuit.
Trump has been paying them for nine months. And the House suspended its challenge. The decision to suspend them now and jack up premiums is Trump's and Trump's alone.
