Trump Ends Subsidies

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  1. james M

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    of course if true you not be so afraid to present just one substantive example. What do you learn from your fear?
     
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    The whole word agrees yet you present it with the astonishment of a kindergartener who has just learned that 1+1=2.
     
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    because he does not operate in a Republican free market. obviously.
     
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    Funny we know waaaayyyy more about economics then the left does in the blue states.
     
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    60 million voted against Obamacare when they elected Trump because they know socialism slowly starved 120 million to death and will do so again if Republicans don't remain vigilant.
     
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    Economics, as a science, is NOT just about cost. But most shoppers think it is, because price is always considered in terms of one's Income. What's too high a price is functionally dependent upon Income.

    The market-economy is best described as the intersection of Price & Cost, or Supply & Demand. Unfortunately, we tend to harp on that particular point, much to the loss of the "Larger Picture".

    Which is "to whom is the economy benefitting adequately, and to whom inadequately". And beyond that, when it comes to taxation - which is merely the sharing of one's income with a government - who benefits most? Or, who should pay more because they earn more, and if so, how much more?

    Only a few times in the history of the US, have the people ever been asked to decide clearly what they want from their political class. More of the same, and the servitude of more than 40 million people below the Poverty Threshold? Or an acknowledgement that the massive rip-off of upper income taxation means that not enough is left to pay for both a humongous DoD-bill AND the provision of both very low-cost National Health Care and Free Post-secondary Diplomas -both of which are necessary necessary for us to live decent lives properly.

    The choice is actually quite simple, so let's stop wailing (shall we?) and do what must be done. Get rid of the indecent Replicant control on our lives. It took a revolution in 1776 to get rid of the British King, and more than two centuries later we must now get rid of his replacement in power.

    The Replicants have must be put down ...
     
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    Once again


    This ranking of the 50 states, reproduced from page 29 of the study, is based on their fiscal solvency in five separate categories:

    • Cash solvency. Does a state have enough cash on hand to cover its short-term bills?
    • Budget solvency. Can a state cover its fiscal year spending with current revenues, or does it have a budget shortfall?
    • Long-run solvency. Can a state meet its long-term spending commitments? Will there be enough money to cushion it from economic shocks or other long-term fiscal risks?
    • Service-level solvency. How much “fiscal slack” does a state have to increase spending if citizens demand more services?
    • Trust fund solvency. How large are each state’s unfunded pension and healthcare liabilities?



    Ranking the States by Fiscal Condition 2017 Edition


    All States
     
  8. LafayetteBis

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    Nice listing. And so ... ?
     
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    uh, what? Nothing I posted was a lie.
     
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    Yes you did you like all, don't mention the hidden taxes.
     
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    lol, do you think cutting off the rest of my post is an honest way to debate? Especially when the part you omitted, is the example you are demanding? lol
     
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    So you now agree that your personal income has no relevance to the cost of something? Good.
     
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    Is that why red states take in more federal money than they pay in taxes than blue states?

    Is that why Kansas's great "red state model" that was implemented was such a spectacular failure?

    Lol
     
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    We smart you dumb


    As for your second question, funny how you make no mention of New York state doing the same thing to attract business.
     
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    I'm not sure you know what a lie is, lol.
     
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    ok?


    Uh, NY did not implement Sammy's "red state model".
     
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    Yea if you tell it long enough you hope it sticks , like the left and bullshit single payer.
     
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    Funny I see commercials down here all the time about New York giving business tax breaks
     
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    but I didn't tell a lie, so this is a stupid comment.

    but we know, empirically, that single payer is superior to our system.
     
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    which isn't the red state model Kansas implemented.
     
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    yes you dif you didn't tell about the hidden taxes to keep it afloat

    How when all the top 19 hospitals in the world are in the United States?
     
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    My bad they weren't on Kansas on steriods..


    Feel better?
     
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    which shows you don't know what a lie is.



    they aren't, but hospital ranking is irrelevant to a healthcare systems efficiency and cost. Single payer is superior
     
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    this is incoherent.
     
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    What you want me to go slow for you and just figured it out that New York state is enticing business to move there because they lowered their taxes?
     

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