"Trump extends nuclear deal"

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  1. Josephwalker

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    This is the definition of fake news. They say he extended the deal in the headline and then casually mention " with tough new rules" but don't tell us what the tough new rules are in detail.

    "This is a last chance,” Trump warned in a statement that outlined several tough new rules."
     
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    Dude you've spammed me with that **** like 10 times.

    But since have no idea what it means and since I have no fascination with Trump's testicles, or testicles in general, I just ignored it.
     
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    No, RUSSIA gave North Korea the ability to create nuclear weapons.

    Not surprised that you're trying to blame Clinton for a problem that has existed since the 50s.
     
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    Damn Straight!

    In Persia, the Farsis are threatening the President if he withdraws from the Obama/GOP-e illegal nuke deal sellout. And directly related is an interesting piece on just what Iran is teeing up in Syria vis a vis Israel.

    Farsicle Farsis Threaten PDT with "Very Unpleasant" Action if US Pulls Out of Iran Nuke Deal Sellout
     
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    Let me understand. Trump proclaims to his followers for a year during the campaign that the Iran deal is the worst ever made. When he's elected he says the same thing. So far he hasn't torched it. Just how much poop can his true believer's ingest?
     
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    In between dealing with Syria, North Korea, creating the best economy in modern history, smashing ISIS and making Marxist liberals scream at the sky he'll find the time.
     
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    Reading the WaPost article linked in January for the claim that "Clinton gave North Korea the ability to create nuclear weapons by EO", I am not seeing that mentioned in the article at all.

    What it did say is that NK already had a reactor that was most likely being used to enrich weapons grade nuclear material and Clinton, along with some other nations, offered heavy fuel oil and light water reactor plant construction as compensation for shuttering the already existing NK reactor.

    Clinton didn't give them the ability, they already had it. He tried to get them not to use it. An argument about trying to bribe them could be made, but not that he gave them the ability to create weapons grade material.

    I'm guessing folks ought to read the sources they link a little closer to make sure they back up the claims they are being linked to support.
     
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    Let's see Syria remains basically unchanged and Trumps pal Putin is still in league with the butcher of Damascus. Their combined bombers and fighters in Syria were left perfectly intact as well as Assad's army, , The unemployment rate was at 4.9% when Obama finished his last term and what he inherited from Bush Jr. was about 9.8% so that that proves that Obama did the heavy lifting In fact the unemployment rate was still falling when Trump was elected.. And by the way Trump's ratings are back down to 3.9% so it looks the most unpopular president in history has everyone screaming not just liberals. You never answered the question on my last post. Just how much poop can his true believers swallow.
     
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    Except the facts of what Trump has accomplished are just that. You can whataboutObama all day if you want.

    As for Syria, at least we have a POTUS who acts. When did the Syrian civil war start again? What did Obama do when Assad gassed his own citizens with his little red lines? Nothing.

    All of the current strife in the ME from Libya to the growth of ISIS to the Syrian civil war all happened on Obama's watch and only got worse. He did absolutely nothing about it.

    To get his Iran deal Obama turned a blind eye to Hezbollah funding of drug operations right here in the United States. The moron even armed Mexican drug cartels.

    The only thing Obama accomplished was kicking at the supports that hold this country up, as was his intention.

    As for Trump dealing with Iran and the nuclear deal, it's a work in progress right now. You'd know that if you'd pay attention to the news.
     
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    Most of your post is either propaganda or ignorance. I can't tell one from the other. And totally gutless. You hide away from presenting links or proof.

    Total lie: Obama already had troops in Iraq and Syria when Trump became President.
    Trump only sent 2000 Troops in Syria hardly enough to make a dent against 10s of thousands of ISIS and other Jihadist groups.. By then Russia had a military air force with Air Bases. it also had sent 130,000. of it's own troops in Syria and provide military training to all of Assad 's army You're not smart enough to figure out who did the heavy lifting in Syria.

    Obama was bombing ISIS in Syria before Trump was elected. Your post is pure crap.
    Once again are you really this ignorant about affairs in the ME or did you swallow the Orange Cool Aid?. Like I said Trump only devoted 2000 Troops to Syria. .So it shows that Trump wasn't much interested in an all out assault. By the time Trump became president Obama had hundreds of advisors in Iraq and ISIS was in full retreat. But duh why learn the truth when a deeply ignorant fabrication will do.


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    Duh! Hezbollah is not the only group of terrorists who are selling drugs to the U.S and internationally. Unfortunately the U.S. as a market is in high demand for Drugs. And Trump isn't leaning on Hezbollah that much either. You would think this moron would learn from others' mistakes instead of making more of his own.

    Just to fill in your ignorance the Iran deal was approved by the International Atomic Energy Association. This organization know more about how to monitor nuclear production and weapons than anyone in the world. No wonder Trump is having second thoughts after stupidly announcing it was the worse deal in the world for months on end.

    Lol Trumpty Dumpty spent years telling his followers what a bad idea the Iran deal was/is. This ignorant man child is now having 2nd thoughts while smarter people already knew this months ago.

    You are a typical Trump supporter. Keep drinking it.:

    "Obama’s Syria strike plan was much bigger than Trump’s ..."

    Obama’s Syria strike plan was much bigger than ... degrade the Syrian military’s ability to conduct further ... attacks on more Syrian air
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/04/09/obama...


    "The United States was already at war with ISIS prior to Trump’s election, working with local partners to take back the territory the terrorist army had gained in Iraq and Syria and carrying out airstrikes in support of that mission. Progress was"
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/did-trump-really-beat-isis-005400328.html

    Time Inc
    But the real blunder, many experts say, was President George W. Bush’s decision to invade Iraq in the first place without any real plan to bring stability. Mistakes aside, calling any U.S. president the “founder of ISIS” is a grave misrepresentation.
    http://time.com/4448218/donald-trump-isis-founder-president-obama-zarqawi/


    End of ISIS? Putin 'sending 150,000 soldiers to Syria to WIPE OUT evil Islamic State'
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/609757/Putin-ISIS-Islamic-State-Syria-Raqqa-troops-soldiers-air-strike-jets-military

    CSIS February 1, 2016
    The New York Times reported on January 28th, that the United States already had some 3,700 uniformed personnel in Iraq, including a small number of special forces in Syria, and that the number was unlikely to rise above 4,500 over time, but gave no details. It is unclear that this total includes headquarters personnel or covert uniformed personnel, and it clearly does not include civilians and any CIA personnel, or U.S. military or civilian personnel in Turkey, Jordan, or the Arab Gulf states.
    https://www.csis.org/analysis/creeping-incrementalism-us-forces-and-strategy-iraq-and-syria-2011-2016-update

    Business Insider Apr. 4, 2018, 5:18 PM
    President Donald Trump reportedly said that he would be open to staying in Syria for the time being, but favors an exit soon.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/troop-levels-in-syria-trump-2018-4US troop levels in Syria currently sit at around 2,000.
    The Telegraph
    Barack Obama’s last major airstrike as president killed around 100 members of al-Qaeda in Syria, according to the Pentagon.
    A B-52 bomber supported by drones struck a training camp in western Syria on Thursday evening, hours before Mr Obama relinquished power to Donald Trump on Friday.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/21/obamas-last-airstrike-kills-100-al-qaeda-fighters-syria/
     
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    Obama did nothing in Syria for 7 years except draw pink lines on the ground and stomp his little foot when Assad kept gassing people.

    The ROE completely changed when Trump took over and put teufel hunden Mattis in charge.

    No more warnings before we attacked, no more sitting on our asses taking incoming fire and not being able to fire back.

    Maybe if you paid more attention you'd realize that the Russians weren't attacking ISIS, they were attacking Assad's rebellion. The only time they went after ISIS as a third player was when they got in the way or threatened Assad's forces directly.

    Obama was a failure as a POTUS. Deal with it.
     
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    Trump didn't want anything to do with Syria either back then Thanks for slinging more Strumpaganda.

    erased by accident will try again
     
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    Slinging more Strumpoganda. Trump campaigned on staying out of Syria early on.
    NPR
    (In 2013)"However, when Obama had vowed that the use of such weapons would "change my calculus" to justify military intervention in Syria, Trump repeatedly took to Twitter to heavily criticise him - and called him a "foolish leader".
    Here is a selection of tweets by Trump about US intervention in Syria before he became president"

    https://www.npr.org/2017/04/04/5226...ident-trump-vs-private-citizen-trump-on-syria

    Also by the time Trump became president the military agreed that ISIS was already on the run in Iraq so Trump played mop up.
    Yeah with only 2000 troops 'compared to Russias original 150'000 troops and the building of runways in Syria to bomb ISIS and other jihadists. This is a laugh.


    Trumps 2000 troops barely made a nick. And Russia sends150,000 troops just to clear out a few stragglers who get in the way according to your other- worldy logic. I think I

    Express 2015
    "End of ISIS? Putin 'sending 150,000 soldiers to Syria to WIPE OUT evil Islamic State"'
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/609757/Putin-ISIS-Islamic-State-Syria-Raqqa-troops-soldiers-air-strike-jets-military

    We're still waiting for a President so far no one has shown.
     
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    Obama drew a pink line and did nothing when Assad crossed it. He went around limp wristing about how the Russians were going to make sure Assad didn't have chemical weapons.

    Let me say that again.

    Obama bragged about how Russia was going to make sure Assad didn't have chemical weapons.

    Maybe he was colluding with Russia.

    Trump has allowed Mattis to smash ISIS.

    It was born and grew on Obama's watch.

    It was crushed on Trump's.

    You can post all the brightly colored posts you'd like, it doesn't change the facts.
     
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    How pitiful. Not only did you not read my post in any great detail but every thing you're now posting has been thoroughly crushed in my last post and in 2 others before that one. My posts also had proofs from other sources and some of those colors were used to separate those quotes from my own. Lol you have no idea how to read my posts. Your post is sadly repetition of your previous posts and the statements are all meaningless gook since you didn't have any sources to back them up. Sadly you don't know the first thing about making effective posts. You clearly don't no how to respond in any of my quotes. Persistence isn't a good thing if you're only spouting gibberish. Go to the children's table.
     
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    LoL sure.

    Every day that passes Obama is proven to be even more stupid than we could have imagined.

    He did a great job with Iran too.

    What a tool that guy was.

    At least now we have a real POTUS.
     
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    Another trash post . Just blatant adhominems, smear attacks and name calling. Your posts are like the rants of a 10 year old. And like a 10 year old since you have nothing of substance to say your only hope is to get the last word. So go ahead but I won't be back to see you're last factless rant..
     
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    Fact: Obama failed on the Iran deal

    Fact: Obama failed on Obamacare

    Fact: Obama failed in Libya.

    Fact: Obama failed in Syria

    What was Obama's accomplishments in 8 years again?
     

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