Trump has 70% chance to be relected 2020

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  1. FinalPhilosopher

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    But America will become even more unequal and divided.
    Tens of millions of Americans will be left out of insurance.
    During his second term, a major economic crisis breaks out and eventually leads to a civil war. China will replace America as the world number one, a new world hegemony.

    Read Oswald Spengler - Decline of the West.
    It's happening.
     
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    Blame the democrats, they have moved too far left and are embracing open borders and islam.
     
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    Read Sinclair Lewis-It Can’t Happen Here.

    It’s happening.
     
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    This is the kind of drivel one sees from people who think Fox is news and Limbaugh is a journalist.
     
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    This is the kind of comment one expects from people who love big government and see challenges to it as evil.
     
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    What about the end of the world? Give us another date because the last date has passed.
     
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    There is an old saying -- "A week is a long time in politics". Especially given the impulsive quality of Trump, no one can predict what will happen between now and election day. I'm not just talking about what he might say, but about what he might do, or be implicated rightly or wrongly, in doing, in the world.

    For instance, suppose we got into some sort of military conflict with Iran. Would this increase his support -- which wars almost always do, at first, for national leaders -- or would people say, "Here we go again ..." and opt for the Democrat?

    Even if there were objective reasons for the latter to happen, if the Democrat is seen to be depending on, or closely associated with, people who have a negative view of America as a land of Zionism, racism, Islamophobia ... this might simply mean they would opt out of voting Democratic. (There were some ... I don't know how many ... people who would have voted Democratic, had the nominee been anyone but Hillary.) Will 'the Squad' become the face of the Democrats?

    Again, there is the economy. Lots of people are predicting another dip, maybe an extreme one. Whether or not Trump would genuinely bear any blame for it, he will be blamed if there is one, and get the credit if the economy continues in its present course.

    And then there's strategy. I don't know if the Republicans in the Pacific Northwest are smart enough and cold-blooded enough to do something like this, but a parade by them in Portland a few weeks before the election, around a patriotic theme, with lots of old vets and white-haired Republican grandmothers, and maybe some anonymous taunts to the local anti-Fa people in advance ... might get some good video.

    And on the other hand, the Democrats can play that game -- surely someone in that camp is thinking about ways to surreptitiously bring out the KKK and neo-Nazis with pro-Trump signs. And who knows what the lads in that basement room in St Petersburg are planning?

    So there is all to play for, as they say.
     
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    Another America is Doomed screed because of Trump? Democrats are dividing America based on identity politics so expect that to continue because that is all they have along with free stuff which, of course, would bankrupt America. China is now suffering a slowdown because they are not the powerhouse the US is economically. For a civil war one would have to convince people to get off their couches to actually move. If you haven't noticed the left is already trying to foment civil war based on opposition to free speech (Antifa).
     
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    So we only have a 7 in 10 chance of not having unlimited illegal immigration and sharia law? Those are not very good odds. It's down right scary. If a demo does win, I hope it's creepy joe..he's the least crazy out of all of them
     
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    The sky is falling too. Read "Chicken Little". I agree that the left wants the west to decline, that is obvious. Not happening except in the minds of the doom-sayers seeking power by instilling fear.

    I'd put the odds or a Trump re-election at somewhere around 90%.
    Everyday, more people are recognizing that the message of left has become the lie of the century, that their desperation has destroyed whatever character they once had.
    The democrats are going over the cliff like a herd of lemmings.

    What is amusing is that Trumps strategy is working really well, and the left doesn't really know what is happening. He doesn't have to beat them, he has them beating themselves.

    Meantime.... the economy is smoking hot, stock market records are happening so often we hardly notice, unemployment continues to drop, jobs continue to increase.... and democrats continue to declare the world will end if we don't change course and embrace poverty. Oh, excuse me- embrace them.

    The dividers- are on the left. The middle is still in the same place, and most republicans and conservatives are close to it. The left.... is sort of in orbit, way beyond the limits of reality. Hard to communicate with people who only listen to the voices in their own heads.
     
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    Obama deliberately race agitated for eight years and his policies directly led to police officers being murdered by his core voters as a result . . . and the political Left was just FINE with that sort of division. I guess it just depends on which vision of Utopia is being pushed forward. Trump's vision of a strong and united United States of America or Obama's vision of a divided and weak nation perpetually at one another's throats. Interesting that our political Left actually think that Obama's 'vision' was a good vision.
     
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    What? Are you going to go down the list of idiotic right wing tropes?

    No one here is talking about big government except you. You do this quite a lot. It’s a pathetically weak attempt to derail the thread, and it almost never works.
     
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    That isn’t true.

    Barack Obama said absolutely nothing about race, until Fox Noise couldn’t hold back anymore, and deployed its first race baiting campaign in early 2008. Then he gave a very eloquent speech that erased the issue. Everywhere that is except in the right wing blog/talk radio sewer, where abject white racism and resentment have been stoked daily for two decades.

    This sewer invented birtherism, FEMA concentration camps, and regularly warned of “civil unrest” if the black man got elected (and again, when re elected).

    Trump watched it all.

    And he made it his own.

    And that crowd loves it.
     
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    Out of 327 million American citizens how many people can you name that want an open border?
     
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    Republicans are the only ones I hear talking about open borders.
     
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    Again with the historical revisions. One wonders if the political Left actually believes what they present to the very people who lived through those Obama years and watched and listened as Obama race agitated and caused police officers to be murdered as a result. Oh well. So it goes . . . on . . . the . . . Left.
     
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    Show me or admit your claim is total bs.

    Obama said Trevon Martin could have been his son, and the right wing went freaking bonkers and called it racist, which is ridiculous. So beyond that crackpot claim, got anything else?

    I'm white and NEVER heard Obama make a racist comment.
     
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    Psssst . . . I'm brown and I heard Obama make racist comments plenty of times. As for your demands . . . I've had enough of leftists and their mania for historical revisions. You are now on ignore. Enjoy.
     
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    Fox is both news and opinion. Limbaugh has never been a journalist. Who told you otherwise?
     
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    So you have no examples to support your crackpot claims, as usual.

    Note the cowardliness. He makes false claims and then hides when challenged. Typical trumper.
     
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    Do you mean to imply that the decline of the west is a bad thing? Im not so sure it is.

    You can't pin it on Trump. The decline started long before he came around. If anything give Trump credit for moving the decline along. After his surprise election i was saying the worst Trump could do may also be the best he could do and that is help shake this country down to its core. Be that the case and it appears we are moving in that direction, I for one embrace the opportunity.

    Chaos is a ladder.
     
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    And they will be left out of yacht ownership as well. People decide what to do with their money. Having government make these decisions for the public has caused more harm than good.


    So Oswald has an opinion. If he has the money, I'll take a bet.
     
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    Most likely either Chris Matthews or Rachel Maddow of MSNBC. Whichever one INTERPRETS the news for a goodly number of our leftists.
     
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    You ladder will be the end of this country. He isn't shaking things up. He has repulsed half the country. Hitler "shook things up" too.

    I for one will never say the pledge again. And the West Coast will be seceding along with many other States. It is just a matter of time,
     
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    What I find interesting is the 70% chance admission by a leftist source. I agree with that assessment, by the way; and that is based on seeing how Trump is successfully managing this nation while the collective political Left is hysterically marching so far leftward as a result that even the old style Soviet politicians might have been tempted to tell them "Woah comrades! Don't get stupid!" The most fascinating part, however, is that this comes after the collective Left just spent a week trying to paint President Trump as a stone cold racist . . . and failing to convince many more of that that the usual core constituency of the Dem Party itself . . . who obviously will believe ANYTHING that their leftist-loyal Mainstream Media TELLS them to believe.

    Perhaps the Left would have a chance if they were to begin steering back to the center line of U.S. politics and thought; but I suspect that the radical leftist have now gotten enough of a power hold on the reigns of party leadership that the DNC can no longer make that happen. Essentially the Dem Party is screwing itself. Got popcorn?

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