Trump hits 52% approval rating.

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  1. Renee

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    That’s why we look at 10 polls. When one is way off, we usually discard that one. Or do you really believe that everyone lies to nine pollsters but tells the truth only to Rasmussen
     
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    I don't believe any polls to be fair. It's not like all of us are being polled. Polls are wrong a lot, ask Romney (just to name one).

    Polls are bullshit. Some polls only ask the people that have the answer they want...
     
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    Rasmussen is known for doing that but you take legitimate posters and if they just take the people that they want they would lose their credibility. Common sense should tell you that
     
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    Ok....? All polls are bullshit. They only poll a minor population. Silent majorities always lurk.
     
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    The only POLL that really matters is Election Day.

    2016 proved that.
     
  6. ArmySoldier

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    Good thing I never made guarantee threads ;)
     
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    The problem with this analysis is the fact that Pelosi is Speaker of the House. And the polls predicted it. Except Rasmussen. We KNOW the Democrats are going to turn out like crazy. The question is, what are you going to do to not get beaten by 8 points again? You're definitely not trying to reach out to us. So what's your strategy? It seems to be: ignore the warning signs and hope that 2016 happens again.

    Again, if that is true, why is there a Speaker Pelosi? Obviously, the average American doesn't "hate the policies of the left" as much as you think they do.
     
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    Accusing Democrats of wanting "open borders" is dishonest.
    You're only slowing down deportation by making being here illegally a criminal offense.
    You should study the Braceros program before sticking your foot in your mouth.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracero_program
    We can afford to provide basic medical care to illegals. What we should do is create an effective e-verify program.
    You can make the sale of new weapons illegal.
    I said the economy is slowing down. You're talking about the stock market.
     
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  9. LangleyMan

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    Polls are BS? You're whistling past the graveyard.
     
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    And it is linked with conservative causes. When only one of 10 show this and this organization has only recieved a "C" grade for curacy i would take the results with a grain of salt.
     
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    No, its accurate. Decriminalization, offering free medical care...that is an open borders policy. The only reason that they're not saying "open borders" is because they know how Americans would react to it and are hoping to fool the gullible.

    There are plenty of ways to make them leave voluntarily.

    Even your own link made the distinction between Braceros and undocumented immigrants.


    We can't even handle it with American Citizens, what makes you think we can handle it with illegals added in there?

    Well, we agree on one thing anyways...​

    Except of course that is not what the Dem candidates are offering is it? They are wanting to ban ownership.

    Ever hear the saying "6 to 1, half dozen to the other"?
     
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    When the Dems select their miserable choice, and the focus becomes on that one.......then we'll see a real shift. Right now, Democrats are still focused on unicorns and free stuff.
     
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    Seems kind of odd to me that the most accurate pollster of 2016 would be given a "C" grade for accuracy.
     
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  14. raytri

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    Perhaps because you don't understand polling as well as you think you do.

    Hint: They are graded on a body of work, not a single poll.
     
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    You're mixing apples with oranges. The 2016 presidential election and the 2018 congressional election are two different things. My focus was on the presidential elections. It would appear as though picking congressional elections is not Rasmussen's forte, at least not in 2018.

    I expect the Dems to hold the House for some years to come, but I think they'll lose a few seats in 2020. They won almost all the close ones in 2018, and some of those will flip back to Republicans in 2020.
     
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    Well, the body of work in 2016 stunk for all those pollsters who predicted Hillary from start to finish. I saw how they operated. They consistently put out huge leads for Hillary until the final few days when they knew their charade was over. Then they closed their gaps to just a 4% lead or so to make it look like they were legitimate pollsters.

    Rasmussen was the only one that nailed it.
     
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    See, you don't understand how polling accuracy is measured.

    A poll can predict the wrong winner and STILL be more accurate than a poll that predicts the right winner. It's all about how close you were to the actual vote split.

    Do you understand that, or do I need to explain it more?
     
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    I would like you to explain how Rasmussen was not the most accurate pollster at picking the 2016 presidential election. Otherwise, all your blather means nothing.
     
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    Have you not read a single word I've written?

    I long ago agreed that Rasmussen managed to nearly nail the popular-vote split in their final poll in 2016.

    I also pointed out that their performance before and after that has been mediocre.

    So overall, they get a "C" rating. One hyperaccurate poll doesn't outweigh hundreds of "meh" polls. A blind squirrel finding a nut doesn't mean you bet on the blind squirrel.
     
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    because they hit one election result one year? I got a broken watch that is right 2x a day.
     
  21. pol meister

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    You'd think at least one of the many unbroken watches could have done as well, but I guess not.
     
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    Even 100% of all living democrats know he has improved their lives for the better, after 8 horrendous years of Obama idiocy, they won't publicly admit it, but they know. and we know. to all Americans everywhere, you are welcome, we kept Hillary out of the whitehouse, to your benefit.
    you are welcome indeed. I guess that kind of makes Trump supporters real heros, yes indeed.
     
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    Yes, they are, but they are also very similar. There are only two occasions when Americans all go out and vote: Presidential and midterm elections. And you got your clock cleaned in 2018. I wouldn't bring this up so much, except:

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: A vote for Marsha is really a vote for me and everything that we stand for. A vote for Marcy (ph) is a vote for me. And a vote for Cindy is a vote for me. And a vote for Steve is a vote for me. Remember this. A vote for David is a vote for me and our agenda to make America great again.
    https://www.npr.org/2018/10/18/6583...-for-gop-midterm-candidates-is-a-vote-for-him

    So Trump goes and makes the Midterms a referendum on him and his policies and the GOP loses badly. What conclusions should we draw from this? A rather obvious one, it seems.


    I expect a Dem House, a GOP senate, and a Dem Presidency.
     
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