Trump is begging to be impeached due to extreme incompetence and naiveté

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  1. Mac-7

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    You call for impeaching trump and call us unreasonable?
     
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    Umm no he didn't. He said that Trump gave up several key bargaining chips in future negotiations, like our exercises in South Korea, without even considering that he could ask for something more solid than a promise from Kim. Why the **** would Kim make a deal when Trump just hands him concessions for nothing?
     
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    Well, Trump also said that he woild personally pay for all non-official travel and expenses for himself and his family out of pocket, but he hasn't done that. He and his family have spent more tax money in vacation travel and personal purchases in a year and a half than Obama did in his entire first term. He broke his promise to not use any tax money except for official travel and official purchases needed for the white house, such as food for state dinners.
     
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    Man, you have made a ton of posts that are pretty much identical to this. Do you honestly think he will be impeached?
     
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    We need more incompetence in government!

    ** Record Unemployment rate
    ** Record black, Hispanic and female unemployment rate
    ** Record stock market rally
    ** Peace talks with North Korea
    ** Populists leaders sweeping across Europe
    ** Record consumer confidence
    ** ISIS is decimated
    ** PRIDE IN AMERICA!
     
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    You mean a public servant is following what his supporters want him to do? The shock and horror of a public servant SERVING his constituents in a manor of which he promised to act that go him elected. The nerve, doesn't he know that the campaign trail is just supposed to be lip service that doesn't mean anything once he gets elected and moves into the ivory tower and sits on the iron throne?

    BTW, 33% of Americans voted for him.
     
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    OP you are missing the obvious. You want to impeach him for incompetence. Yet he has been more successful at getting his agenda done than any president I can remember. He is doing what he promised voters he would do. That isn't incompetence. In reality you want to impeach him because you don't like what he says and how he says it. Simply correct the title of your OP and most of us will agree with you. Most of us care about what he does, now what he says.
     
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    Stopping joint military exercises off the Korean coast, which cost millions and also eventually stop, is Trump giving Kim the sleeves from his vest.
     
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    And, by the official rules of the United States of America regarding the election of the President, TRUMP WON. And, the moment he was declared the winner, the Left had a psychotic break with the truth and reality. Up until then, it was just everyday denial of truth and reality. The mental shock exhibited by the Left on that night will always be one of my most pleasant memories.
     
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    I said, "I am not the press. Which facts that I have stated are false? You don't say.

    "There is definitely a pattern here. Trump's fans continue to ignore the issue. I am beginning to think it is an intelligence problem."

    To which, this member of Trump's base replied.

    I did? You couldn't possibly know that. So, you lied.

    Amazing how Trump's fans consistently prove my point. In addition, they are defending Trump by using their ignorance.

    Truly amazing. We cannot allow these people to chose our President again. If, in the last election, you stayed home because you wouldn't get off your ass or you tossed your vote away on a candidate who had no chance of winning because you wanted to make a statement, don't in future elections. You can see the result of your decision.

    This poster and others like him made the decision for you.
     
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    Yup, true. Did you just realize that?

    The point is, you disputed my figure supporting the fact that Trump is a minority President and cannot claim he speaks for the American people. Roughly 75% of the American people opposed his policies. You are no longer disputing my figure because I proved it correct. That is the point, not the fact that Trump was elected President. :roflol:

    I have no idea what you are talking, perhaps because I am not a member of the left. Besides, I am not responsible for what the left says and does. I am only responsible for what I say and do.

    That renders your statement entirely irrelevant.

    You challenged what I said about Trump being elected by 25% of the electorate and lost, although, technically, it was 27%. Care to challenge something else I said?
     
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    Trump NEVER had a mandate and yet he and his fans are under the delusional impression that they get to have their authoritarian dictator. Trumpanzees need a daddy as opposed to democracy and rule of law.
     
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    "these people" we are american citizens too and yet you call us the divisive ones? That is like when Hillary called american citizens "deplorables" you don't do that and expect to win elections!!! Idiots.
     
  14. Sandy Shanks

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    This post deserves to be reviewed. It makes on think. Kudos to the writer.
     
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    Members of Trump's cult seem to have difficulty dealing with issues. What does this post have to do with my reply? Absolutely nothing, and it is pure nonsense.

    Why do you support Trump? You can't defend him.
     
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    Defend him from what ? Defend him because YOU HATE him ? Why ? ... He's doing a great job !
     
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    Pure nonsense like your post?
     
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    Trump also promised Kim that he would push for the elimination of our nuclear protection of South Korea and Japan. This means we won't nuke North Korea, if they nuke those countries. This is something the US had never even considered, and actually violates several treaties we have with Japan and South Korea. Even if it doesn't happen, the fact that Trump promised that he wouild push for it to be done is a spit in the face to two of our closest allies.
     
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    Putting ideas forward is a routine part of any negotiation. Trump didn't agree to anything of the sort as you are fussing about. Withdrawing nuclear support, if it happens at all around two countries, one which long ago had us remove any land-based nuclear support and the other which prohibited any land-based nuclear support is a spit in their face?? How so.
     
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    Oh and if we do end nuclear support of Japan, we could also end up losing all of our bases there. Nuclear protection was one of the requirments for them allowing Navy and Airforce bases in their country. Since they have no standing army, and only have a much weaker self defense force, they made a deal with the US to allow US "first strike" military bases in their country in exchange for conventional and nuclear protection. If we pull nuclear protection, Japan couid decide that we are not living up to our agreement and revoke the leases for US bases there.
     
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    I see you have not yet come to terms with the fact Trump will remain in office until at least 2021.
     
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    Your effort to present "facts" about how Trump got elected appears to be an attempt to delegitimize the FACT that he was elected according to the OFFICIAL rules.

    So, many people did not vote; that is normal in most elections. But, you can't use that fact to imply that if they had all voted, Trump would have lost. So, it is not possible to say that Trump is a "minority" President. Quit dealing with irrelevancies; HILLARY LOST - TRUMP WON - LMAO.
     
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    You cannot show this to be true.
     
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    Not a chance.
     
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    Trump said, "Democrats are the problem. They don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country, like MS-13."

    This statement to the American people is a total lie, every word of it. Among other deceptions, Trump is equating a desperate family from Honduras with MS-13. It really takes a pretty sick man to do that.

    Members of his administration are accepting responsibility for Trump's zero tolerance policy, but Trump won't. Attorney General Jeff Sessions said an "escalated effort" was needed to address a crisis at the southwest border. So Sessions directed the implementation of a new "zero-tolerance" policy to prosecute all illegal entry referrals.

    In March 2017, then-DHS Secretary John Kelly (now White House chief of staff) told CNN he was considering separating children from parents to deter illegal immigration. "The children will be taken care of — put into foster care or whatever. But the big point is they elected to come illegally into the United States and this is a technique that no one hopes will be used extensively or for very long," Kelly said.

    White House adviser Stephen Miller defended the policy, describing it as a “simple decision.” “No nation can have the policy that whole classes of people are immune from immigration law or enforcement. … The message is that no one is exempt from immigration law.”

    Trump refuses to accept responsibility. "Democrats are the problem."

    U.S. stocks finished in the red on Tuesday as investors shed stocks following Trump’s late-Monday threat to slap an additional $400 billion in tariffs on China goods. The announcement represented the latest escalation in a tit-for-tat dispute between the No. 1 and 2 largest economies in the world, rattling investors. Tuesday’s decline marked the sixth straight drop for the Dow, representing the longest such skid since March 2017, a string of down days that has erased all of 2018’s gains thus far. The Dow is down about 0.1% year to date.

    While certainly there are other factors, this dramatic fall is largely due to the trade war between China and the U.S. that Trump started along with the 25% steel tariff and 10% aluminum tariff on Canada, Mexico and the EU.

    Guess whose help we need in our economic disputes with China? Answer: Canada, Mexico, and the EU, who used to be our friends and trading partners. Well, that isn't going to happen anytime soon.

    Recently, Trump declared, following his photo op with Kim Jong Un, "Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea." As everyone not named Trump knows that work has not even begun. Trump's fantasies aside, Kim still has all his hydrogen bombs and ICBM's and is still a major threat to world peace and American soil.

    Guess whose help we need to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula? Answer: China, and I mean major help. Without China's help, there will be no denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. Period.

    So, what does Trump do? He starts a trade war with China. What are the odds of China now wanting to help the U.S. with its Korean problem? Answer: Slim and none.

    In the meantime, Trump removed the United States from the United Nations Human Rights Council, which it has accused of anti-Israel bias.

    Trump officially directed the Pentagon to establish a sixth branch of the U.S. military in space on Monday. Speaking at a National Space Council meeting at the White House, Trump called for a "space force" to ensure American dominance on the high frontier.

    Wheee! :cheerleader:Like the title says, Trump is begging to be impeached.
     

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