Trump is innocent, according to Rosenstein

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    Andrew G. McCabe, the former deputy F.B.I. director, said in an interview aired today that top Justice Department officials became so alarmed by Trump’s decision in May 2017 to fire James B. Comey, the bureau’s director, that they discussed whether to recruit cabinet members to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from office. McCabe said he made sure the investigation would continue even if he was fired.

    He was fired. He was the second director of the FBI to be fired. Both were investigating the Russian connection.

    In its reply, the DOJ did not deny that discussions within the department took place. They merely acknowledged that "there was no basis to invoke the 25th Amendment."

    “I was speaking to the man who had just run for the presidency and won the election for the presidency and who might have done so with the aid of the government of Russia, our most formidable adversary on the world stage,” McCabe said.
     
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    The Times reports, "President Trump declared a national emergency at the border on Friday to access billions of dollars to build a border wall that Congress refused to give him, transforming a highly charged policy dispute into a fundamental confrontation over separation of powers.

    "In a televised announcement in the Rose Garden, Mr. Trump said he would sign the declaration to protect the country from the flow of drugs, criminals and illegal immigrants coming across the border from Mexico, which he characterized as a profound threat to national security."

    In the first place, Trump has this moronic idea that a border wall will stop criminals and drugs from entering our country. He mistakenly associates various crimes by illegal aliens to a border wall. Notice how he avoids mentioning the wall. “We’re going to confront the national security crisis on our southern border and we’re going to do it one way or the other. It’s an invasion. We have an invasion of drugs and criminals coming into our country. We don't control our own border. We're going to confront the national security crisis on our southern border and we're going to do it -- one way or the other we have to do it.”

    "IT!" He knows his wall is stupid and ineffectual, and he avoids using the term. The majority of drugs come through ports of entry, and his wall will not even slow down criminals from entering our country. He wants the wall because he made an outrageous campaign promise that is already broken. Mexico is not going to pay for any wall. Unfortunately, 60 million Americans have forgotten that fact, somehow think Trump's wall will stop crime, and support his medieval wall instead of 21st Century methods that will do a better job at less cost.

    In the second place, either intentionally or inadvertently, Trump is acting like a Russian agent. Putin's dream is to weaken the American government and throw it into chaos.

    In December, contrary to the wishes of his own party, Trump proudly shut down the government over his border wall. It was the longest shutdown in American history. Now he is challenging the Separation of Powers concept contained in our Constitution, once again in opposition to his own party along with the Democrats. Congress appropriates funds. Trump wants to challenge Congress and go around the legislative branch.

    In other words, Trump, all on his own, is creating a Constitutional crisis. Putin has to be smiling. He could not be more pleased with what Trump is doing.

    Either by accident or by design or through sheer stupidity, Trump is acting like an agent for the Russian Federation. I do not understand how Americans who represent his fan base can support him on this. What in the world is their rationale?

    Or, are they ignoring reality? Again?
     
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    Trump's fans have given up again. Well, there really isn't much they could say. The circumstances lining up against Trump are overwhelming.
     
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    It is in the sense that there very clearly seems to be a double standard? If Trump Jr's meeting with a private Russian citizen who promised him dirt (possibly crimes by?) his political opponent is such a big deal why is the DNC's hiring a British national, Christopher Steele to rake up dirt on Trump not treated the same?
     
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    They do now. What was the predicate crime that started the investigation in the first place?
     
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    The FBI's actions are inexplicable and more than justify the assorted firings, Dems hopes that Trump would be impeached for obstruction of justice or campaign finance violations have been quietly forgotten (and even if he was prosecuted all Bill and Obama got for the same were fines).
     
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    The circumstances of a "silent coup d' taut" against a duly elected President of which you are a part are becoming more and more overwhelming. McCabe's new book and his testimony that conflicts with Comey, Stroyk, and Rosenstein, warrants more investigation and Barr will see to that. So Rosenstein did try to wear a wire tap and entrap the President......interesting developments. The 25th amendment was planned to unseat our elected President by a handful of unelected bureaucrats and that effort continues to this day. Call it Stroyk's "insurance policy" because Hillary "should have been elected 1,000,000 to one!"
    The 25th amendment was intended to replace a President that was incapacitated from an unplanned attempt such as JFK if he had survived with half his brain blown out.....but they intended to use it differently to overturn an election. This whole thing smacks of treason and you, Sandy, continue to give it voice!
     
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    No one's giving up. This whole thing is about to go a new direction and you are just spinning your wheels.
     
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    Something you might address....why was Chuck Schumer so verbally for building a wall, and why was Obama so outspoken about the harmful effects of illegal immigration BEFORE the election of our President Trump?
     
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    Because Junior, Jared, and Trump's campaign manager met with four representatives of the Russian government as Glodstone's email to Junior made clear.

    "The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

    "This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump."

    Read the entire email exchange here. https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/07/politics/donald-trump-jr-full-emails/

    You may learn something.
     
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    Like I said, you are giving up. Instead of dealing with what Trump is doing, you want to change the subject. That is a typical Trump fan reaction. They don't want to talk about Trump.
     
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    and you don't ever want to talk about the silent coup and two tiered justice system you are involved in. If your accusations had any merit at all, President Trump would have been found guilty and impeached long ago. You just keep throwing out "bait" as you have done for almost two years now, You have chummed the water so heavily with bait none of the fish pay any attention. If all you want to do is talk about Trump, let's talk about his most accomplished record. Let's talk about his approval numbers increasing since the SOTU. See, that's an aspect that you, like the media refuse to acknowledge. You have one game here on the forum and that is to defame the President. That is all MSM does. They have absolutely no other purpose than to try and bring down the President. Most would not think that would never happen in America. Our news media wants to disenfranchise a very large segment of the population with its biases and it has its establishment lemmings like yourself.
     

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