Trump is the President of death

McCain, Collins, and Murkowski deserve to be primaried as well as the other D senators who voted no on the skinny bill which would have resulted in increased economic growth rate of the US economy. McCain's action cannot be explained. Forcing young healthy Americans to pay too much for health insurance to subsidize premiums for older Americans, forcing small businesses to provide health insurance, and keeping the medical device tax on revenues (not earnings) is absurd as it the entire concept of ObamaCare,

 

Now that the Republican Senate has failed to pass any healthcare bill, Trump relentlessly renews his effforts to punish Americans who have purchased health insurance. His vindictive streak raises it ugly head again, this time taking his revenge on innocent Americans.

Trump vowed, "Let Obamacare implode." He continues his campaign of depriving people of their health insurance thereby insuring that some will die. He has already done plenty in this regard.

His administration has taken steps to ensure its failure. Even without Congress, Trump has already started done things to undermine important provisions of the health law.

1. Weaken enforcement of the individual mandate.
How this hurts Obamacare: Fewer healthy people may sign up for insurance, driving up prices for those who need it most, like older people and the sick.

2. Impose work requirements for Medicaid recipients.
How this hurts Obamacare: Many people who gained coverage through Medicaid expansion may not be able to afford insurance or participate in the program.

3. Fail to do advertising or outreach.
How this hurts Obamacare: Without outreach, the number of Americans who learn about the Affordable Care Act and sign up for coverage could dwindle.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/19/us/what-trump-can-do-to-let-obamacare-fail.html

 

What are the D's doing to fix the ObamaCare problems ?? What ObamaCare problems have the D's identified ??

Your post unwittingly illustrates why ObamaCare has failed.

 

Trump tweeted, "Republicans in the Senate will NEVER win if they don't go to a 51 vote majority NOW. They look like fools and are just wasting time."

It should be noted that, once again, Trump is attacking Republicans, this time calling them fools.

Is Trump so out of touch that he doesn't know that all the Senate health bills, all the various amendments the past few days, did not pass because McConnell couldn't garner 51 votes!

Republicans have instead opted to try to pass tax reform and health care through a process known as reconciliation, which applies to budgetary measures and requires only 51 votes. The Republicans couldn't get that.

Trump doesn't know this?

Trump doesn't know that a traditionalist like McConnell will never change the Senate rules regarding the filibuster. Unlike Trump, he knows that Republicans will not always be in control of the Senate. In fact, the way things are going, their reign of the Senate may end in 2018.

 

This will be detailed when McConnell asks the Democrats for help. Until then, I'm not wasting my time on the issue. I don't deal in hypotheticals.

You have a chronic reading problem. My post illustrated the damage the Trump administration has done to Obamacare.

 

Your post is completely ludicrous. Actually, you are lying. The "skinny" repeal would do none of the things you mentioned. The Senators, all of them, were in agreement the bill would be disastrous if put in effect. McConnell convinced most of them to vote for it arguing that the bill would form the basis of reconciliation with the House.

McCain wondered what would happen if the House didn't go to reconciliation and voted on the Senate bill, sending it to the White House for the President's signature. That would have been so disastrous for the GOP that its members couldn't run for dogcatcher in 2018.

So, he voted no.

 

The D's are not willing to both identify and propose ObamaCare fixes. There is nothing hypothetical about the economic damage that the original legislation has and continues to do.

It's clear that the R's are not capable of health insurance reform so it is now up to the D's to take the lead and propose how to fix ObamaCare. How are they going to fix the disaster they have created and get the economy growing at 3% or greater ??

 

My post is completely accurate. McCain acted selfishly and with no concern for the welfare of the American citizen.

 

You finally said something we can agree upon.

If you had been listening to what leading Democrats have been saying, they are more than willing to work with Republicans to fix Obamacare. The main problem, the Republican leadership hasn't asked them yet.

Oh, sure, McConnell had that nice little speech about what the Democrats had to offer, but it is one thing to make speeches. It is quite another to roll up your sleeves and get work and solve this thing.

Me, I am tired of the rhetoric. It is past time to accomplish something.

In the meantime, Trump is saying "Let Obamacare implode." He actually bragged about it. His administration is doing everything it can to deny healthcare to Americans.

He's bragging about that, too. What an SOB.

 

You are wrong. You have no idea what you are talking about. The "skinny" repeal was not a health plan.

Lawmakers only had a few hours to consider the "skinny repeal" bill before voting on it. The legislation would have unwound parts of Obamacare in hopes of winning the approval of at least 50 of their members. Senators would have then hammered out a final bill with the House in a conference committee.


This repeal bill, however, could have wrecked the individual market, said insurers, doctors, consumer advocates and health policy experts. Repealing key provisions of Obamacare without replacing them could cause insurers to flee and premiums to rise.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/27/news/economy/senate-skinny-repeal-health-care/index.html

McCain didn't trust the House on this important matter. I don't blame him one bit. The House is very pro-Trump, and Trump wanted something, anything he could call a victory. Here is part of what McCain said.

While the amendment would have repealed some of Obamacare's most burdensome regulations, it offered no replacement to actually reform our health care system and deliver affordable, quality health care to our citizens. The Speaker's statement that the House would be "willing" to go to conference does not ease my concern that this shell of a bill could be taken up and passed at any time.

 

What are the D's waiting for ?? Why aren't they taking the opportunity presented by the dysfunction of the R's to present their own plan to fix ObamaCare ?? This is the perfect time to do so - but "crickets" from the D's. Where is Gruber when the D's actually need him ??

 

The skinny bill is an economic plan.

McCain should be ashamed of himself for so obviously placing his own reputation as a maverick before the welfare of the American people. He couldn't think himself out of a wet paper bag. So he was the only Senator who did not believe the word of Paul Ryan - forking unbelievable. Nice job John.

 

The House has gone home for the August recess. The Senate is in session working on matters other than healthcare, such as, for example, confirmation of Trump appointees. Trump has been very slow with these appointments and the Senate has gotten behind due to health care legislation and other delayed legislation.

Besides, the Republicans control the Senate. They control all the chairmanships. Republicans have to be willing to work with Democrats on health care. Blame the Republicans, not the Democrats. Republicans are in charge.

 

Interesting that you are all alone. Other Trump fans have given up. They know Trump is out to destroy Obamacare, thereby killing Americans for lack of health insurance. Other Trump fans just don't want to talk about that, because they know it is the truth. Some even endorse it, but they can't say that. They know the people who will die are mostly poor minorities, in other words, Democrats. That suits them fine.

Trump Tweets

If ObamaCare is hurting people, & it is, why shouldn't it hurt the insurance companies & why should Congress not be paying what public pays?

5:16 AM - Jul 31, 2017

If a new HealthCare Bill is not approved quickly, BAILOUTS for Insurance Companies and BAILOUTS for Members of Congress will end very soon!

9:27 AM - Jul 29, 2017

I’ve described these so many times that I’ll let the Associated Press do it this time:

The subsidies, totaling about $7 billion a year, help reduce deductibles and copayments for consumers with modest incomes. The Obama administration used its rule-making authority to set direct payments to insurers to help offset these costs. Trump inherited the payment structure, but he also has the power to end them.

 

So what again is stopping the D's from going to the people or proposing legislation with their plan to fix ObamaCare ??

 

There will be women and children dying in the streets !! The D's have the capability to stop all of this "killing" but are not interested.

 

Trump needs health care. He is not a well man. For suffering defeat of Trumpcare he wants to punish everybody, American citizens and members of Congress.

Republicans are fighting back against the President. They are rejecting his call to let Obamacare "implode" after the Senate failed to advance legislation to repeal former President Barack Obama's health care law.

"I don't think that letting it fail is the best option, even though it certainly allows additional pressure to happen," said Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., who is chairman of the House Freedom Caucus and close ties to the White House. "We can do better than that."

Rep. Mark Amodei, R-Nev., rebuked Trump more directly. "No," he said when asked if he agreed with the president. "Clear-cut question — no."

Trump is becoming isolated. The White House is in total chaos and if Trump thinks Kelly is the solution to the problem, he is nuts. Why? Because Trump is the problem. Now even the Republican Congress has gotten weary of his paranoid schizophrenia and vindictiveness.

 

Now we have another Trump advisor telling us that Trump doesn't really mean what he is saying. This kind of thing has been going on for six months. We are continually told, Trump didn't mean it. Trump was joking. Trump was being sarcastic. It is as if Trump has a problem with the English language, and we need an interpreter to understand him.

The latest interpreter is Tom Price, the secretary of health and human services. Trump doesn't think letting the healthcare system under the Affordable Care Act implode is the right thing to do, but will continue to threaten to do so because he doesn't think Obamacare is working for the American people, Tom Price said Sunday.

"It's not the right thing to do because it hurts people," Price said.

Well, no s**t.

Trump is not a well man. When the President needs an interpreter, something is seriously wrong.

 

Trump Derangement Syndrome. And again what are the D's doing to propose legislative fixes to ObamaCare ?? Crickets.

 

And Price has Trump's meaning exactly. But if the handful of R's are willing to let their definition of perfection be the enemy of goodness and the D's do nothing then ObamaCare (which is in a death spiral) will implode. ObamaCare is unfixable - the entire concept of forcing young healthy people to over pay for health insurance is failing.

 

This is so over dramatic ... seriously. You know better than to buy into the mainstream media diatribe.

Prior to Obamacare there were not hoards of people dying. After Obamacare will be no different.

The fact of the matter is that Obamacare was just another crappy healthcare plan. We need to scrap the whole thing and go to a universal healthcare system like "every other first world nation" on the planet. These systems are both cheaper and offer just as good quality of healthcare. We could still have private on the side for those who wanted to pay for it.

We had a bad system before OBcare .. OBcare was bad, and we will have a bad system after OBcare is gone.

And that is that.

 

When people don't have health care they die sooner than people with health care. That is patently obvious, but apparently you don't understand that.

"Hoards?" Talking about being dramatic. Prior to Obamacare, many people died for lack of health care. Obamacare prolonged the lives of many. Obamacare premiums could shoot up if Trump doesn't guarantee important cost sharing reduction (CSR) payments. People will lose Obamacare. Many will die as a result.

You are right. There is no difference.

You really don't care, do you? The people who will die as a result of all this will be poor minorities. Democrats, in other words. Your post illustrates you simply don't care. You agree with Trump. "Let Obamacare implode."

Congress won't let that happen. Trump is losing more Republicans in Congress everyday. They are tired of his cruelty and stupidity.

 

You are ranting. Your claim that more people died due to lack of healthcare prior to Obamacare is unsubstantiated.

Second .. What part of my comments on how I think we should have "Universal Healthcare" did you not friggen understand ???

What is your problem ?

 

nothing ,not one word about the hospitals driving up cost,no one word about controling cost,the health care industray will drive AMERICANS to single payer,

https://dailyreckoning.com/end-greatest-health-care-rip-century/

Why is it that an MRI costs $1,080 in America and $280 in France?

 

Perhaps Trump can start with you then.