Trump Jr. to young conservatives: Don't get indoctrinated by these loser teachers pushing socialism

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Donor

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    “To the extent that the left wants to point to an example of successful socialism, not just generous welfare states, the Nordic countries are actually a poor case to cite. Regardless of the perception, in reality the Nordic countries practice mostly free market economics paired with high taxes exchanged for generous government entitlement programs.

    First, it is worth noting that the Nordic counties were economic successes before they built their welfare states. Those productive economies, generating good incomes for their workers, allowed the governments to raise the tax revenue needed to pay for the social benefits. It was not the government benefits that created wealth, but wealth that allowed the luxury of such generous government programs.

    Second, as evidence of the lack of government interference in business affairs, there is the fact that none of these countries have minimum wage laws. Unions are reasonably powerful in many industries and negotiate contracts, but the government does nothing to ensure any particular outcome from those negotiations. Workers are paid what they are worth, not based on government’s perception of what is fair”

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2018/07/08/sorry-bernie-bros-but-nordic-countries-are-not-socialist/#69a0cde674ad

    How do you like it? :hug:
     
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    Jimmy79 Well-Known Member

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    The one I had when I was unemployed was about $100 a month and $10k deducible and it covered my wife and me. I cant find the paperwork or remember if it was per year or per occurance. I do know that it was extremely cheap for copays on drugs, including name brand, and that was not connected to the deductible.

    The only way we will get cheaper health care is to get insurance out of the every day marketplace. Making people use cash for routine care will also depress the urge to get the newest, most expensive, care there is, despite the fact that there are equally reliable procedures that are cheaper.
     
  3. archives

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    Yeah, Junior ought to have daddy run on it as a campaign theme
     
  4. Jimmy79

    Jimmy79 Well-Known Member

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    Wait times are all about location and what exactly you need. several years ago I bad a badly sprained ankle. I saw the doc the day after I injured it. got my MRI done later that day. saw the orthopedist 2 days later. surgery scheduled for about a month after I saw the orthopedist as we had to wait for the swelling to go down before he would operate.
     
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    TomFitz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, and not for the reasons you claimed, either.

    In fact, the article you posted says none of the things you claimed that it does.
     
  6. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Like father, like son....privileged, raised by a class oriented, bigoted father. Why would we expect anything else?
     
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    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Ahh, but since most people who live in a capitalist society are not themselves capitalist, yet know nothing of socialism, I dare say it's subjective as to who is ignorant of what.
     
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    The second paragraph is false. None of the Scandanavian countries were doing all that well, and their standards of living were not particularly high in the mid 1920's when the generous welfare state was first introduced.

    You don't need a minimum wage law, when a substantial amount of the population is unionized. Employers cannot prey on employees the way many do in the US.

    I have no idea what point you are trying to make, as this EDITORIAL does not refute anything I have said on the topic.
     
  9. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Donor

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    Point?

    Sweden is not a socialist state.
     
  10. struth

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    The article I posted, original talked about the massive wait lines.
    Te second article highlighted how the Sweden welfare state was reforming because it was unsustainable...and too Post a link to a story highlighting how that’s true and how they privatized their SS... which was one of my points
     
  11. Kode

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    1) What was the law that got passed by Clinton regarding CEO salary?
    2) What was the "compensation" of each of the CEOs of Broadcom, First Data, and Live Nation Entertainment in 2018?
    3) How did they get around Clinton's salary limits?
     
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  12. Longshot

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    Don't know. Don't care.
    Don't know. Don't care.
    Don't know. Don't care.

    Boards of directors are going to give management an incentive to increase the value of the company. I'm sorry you have a problem with the way companies manage themselves.
     
  13. Kode

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    OF COURSE YOU DON'T!!! :roflol: :banana: :roflol:
     
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    LMAO

    Pretty funny seeing a right-wing coward like junior donnie who gets his jollies shooting defenseless big-game animals in enclosed spaces calling teachers losers...
     
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  15. Longshot

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    Retarded emojis noted.

    Boards of directors are going to give management an incentive to increase the value of the company. I'm sorry you have a problem with the way companies manage themselves.
     
  16. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    Well then, let's get back to this. ^^^

    That is a deflection. I said oil companies keep collecting drilling permits even though they aren't going to drill, and I stated why they do. And it explains for Dutch why oil companies are lusting after Venezuelan oil. So your above reply is a deflection.

    Would you like to try addressing the subject?
     
  17. Bluesguy

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    Nope I say what I mean and mean what I say. I every socialist country the ones who are well off are the socialist while the masses suffer. Only in capitalist system is success and high standards of living broad based and of the masses.
     
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    They don't need that is just the norm, everyone is bankrupt.
     
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  19. Longshot

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    The subject isn't individual rights, so, yeah no. Later.
     
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    You literally just make this up as you go along don't you ?
     

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