Trump just keeps on winning for America.

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  1. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To say he doesn't care about anyone and did nothing for the country is a complete falsehood. He has done more for the American people than the last three Presidents. You just can't get honest reporting from the bias media. Does this sound like he doesn't care about anyone? Do you know just in the last month or so he passed a bill allowing the terminally ill to try experimental drugs, not yet approved for sale to give people a chance to live, or at least extend their life? He has signed a prison reform act to give convicts a chance for a new lease on life. He launched the Urban Council Act that will invest 100 billion in Black communities to fix them up and bring in business and jobs to their communities? Ended Catch and Release. Now how can you keep saying he doesn't care about anyone but himself?Now I bet you never heard of any of this on MSNBC or CNN have you?
     
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    I'll let you be content with your notion that there is a vast, coordinated corporate media conspiracy manipulating the American populace from which those outlets of which you approve are immune.
     
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    I just explained how it will be. We don't make anything here for the average citizen anywhere. Our bad trade deals down through the years have robbed them from us. What we make will be for the government and Chinese business. Mostly business. I named a bunch, here is a couple more, telecommunications, computers. Trade isn't close to being equal. Do you know what our biggest box car exports were to china. You know those box cars filled with all kinds of Chinese goods? They went back filled mostly with our trash. Yes, our biggest box car exports were our news papers, cardboard, plastic, glass and tin cans. But China has even stopped taking most of that because it isn't clean enough.
     
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    What things would Chinese businesses get from America that they can’t get cheaper from Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, India, etc?
     
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    Don't tell me there isn't Natty, that chart shows there is. I have watched MSNBC and CNN, it's almost all negative. The plain fact that none of you can tell one one good thing he has done shows I'm right. I can give you a hell of a lot more like fixing the VA. Obama said he would and then didn't. Trump did. Our veterans are getting the good and timely care they have needed and weren't getting. He fixed our military that Obama let go to hell. He has brought back a thriving economy. None of that do you hear on CNN or MSNBC. That why the Left is constsntly saying he's done nothing but making his rich friends richer. You people haven't a clue.
     
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    Do you have a hard time understanding that China is trying to appease America by buying more stuff from us, because we are by far their biggest customer. If we quit buying from them and buy some place else, it would ruin their economy. This way we can both be happy.
     
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    We can't be happy when our trash, our biggest box car export is no longer wanted. Trump wants fairer trade. He believes, as I do, we have been screwed enough and America can't be a first class nation living on Obama's service and part time jobs. That shouldn't be that hard to understand. These bad trades have robbed of us of some of the biggest industries we once dominated.
     
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    The only way we would quit buying Chinese goods would be if the government decided to pick winners and losers in the market and go against consumers’ wishes.

    But I guess big government liberals like yourself and Trump want to have the government controlling the market instead of letting consumers decide for themselves what deal is best.
     
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    We could buy many of the stuff we buy from China from a number of Asian countries, some for even less. Wages in China is going up faster than people realize, that is why we even have some companies in China moving here like Apple. One Chinese company is closing their plant in china and moving it to Georgia. GE moved their major appliances back to America from China and then sold the company to China, which pissed me off.
     
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    Chinese wages rise: 'Made in China' isn't so cheap anymore

    https://www.cnbc.com/.../chinese-wages-rise-made-in-china-isnt-so-cheap-anymore.ht...

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    With pay rising and the cost of shipping the product back to America and now with the lower tax rate and lower regulations, make America competitive again.
     
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    So much whining.

    Donald J. Trump‏Подлинная учетная запись @realDonaldTrump 10 ч.
    Mexico is doing NOTHING to stop the Caravan which is now fully formed and heading to the United States. We stopped the last two - many are still in Mexico but can’t get through our Wall, but it takes a lot of Border Agents if there is no Wall. Not easy!​

    So, wait a moment. We stopped the last two caravans without your wall. It was "not easy," according to you, but we stopped them. Oh, and the "many" that are still in Mexico "can't get through our Wall." Um, OK.... What wall?
     
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    Obama had the highest corporate tax in the whole industrial world and he put on record regulations. All that did was drive business away. With lower tax and regulations, rising wages and benefits in China, plus the cost of transporting the product here, makes America competitive again. Plus the fact, business has it easier to control production on America soil. Now if the Democratic Congress don't screw it up with higher corporate taxes and regulations, America should once again be in good shape. Especially with better trade.
     
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    So we don’t need tariffs. Let the market decide what to buy.
     
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    Actually, it is in democracies.

    Attacking the press like Trump does is a show of weakness.

    Harry Truman said
    "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"
     
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    It is the duty of the free press, on behalf of the people, to be critical of those who wield power. The narcissist denounces "the enemy of the people" because he expects media to fulfill the same roll as his Attorney Generals, to promote his greater glory. Americans are sick of his cry baby shtick.
     
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    Again, got anything to back up what you're saying? How many new manufacturing jobs has Trump created? All I'm hearing about is plants closing. What is replacing GM and other manufacturing jobs that are gone?
     
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    Here's the BLS information on manufacturing jobs Marine1. It looks like Obama did a better job creating them than Trump. It seems Obama was doing the winning, Trump's just talkin.

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    Jobs: There are now more job openings than there are people ...

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/nation-now/2018/.../job...workers.../6761910...

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    Manufacturing jobs growing at fastest rate in 23 years - MarketWatch

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    Manufacturing Jobs Returning to US from Foreign Soil | IndustryWeek

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    But now that we're in the midst of a booming economy — which kicked in after Trump reversed almost all Obama's economic policies — we're supposed to believe that it's Obama who deserves all the credit.

    Yep. That's precisely what Obama and his Amen Chorus in the press want us to believe.

    In his speech in Illinois last Friday, Obama complained that Republicans were taking credit for his work.

    "When you hear how great the economy's doing right now, let's just remember when this recovery started," he said. "I mean, I'm glad it's continued, but … suddenly Republicans are saying it's a miracle."

    This week, White House Council of Economic Advisers Chairman Kevin Hassett wisely set the record straight. At a briefing on Monday, he noted that just about every important economic indicator showed the economy was stalling out in Obama's last year.

    Hassett explained that small business optimism had been on the decline before the November 2016 election. The percentage of businesses saying it's a good time to expand was, too. Business investment was stagnant. All those turned upward starting in 2017. Applications for new businesses are now well above the trend over Obama's entire second term, Hassett noted. And blue-collar jobs are growing faster than any time since the Reagan administration.

    Turnaround on GDP Growth
    There's more. The rate of GDP growth was decelerating in Obama's last year. It went from 2.3% in Q2, to 1.9% in Q3 to 1.8% in Q4 of 2016. Under Trump, GDP growth has averaged 2.9%. It was 4.2% last quarter and might be higher in the current one.

    The stock market also was stuck in neutral the year before the November 2016 elections. The Dow is up by some 45% since then.

    Real median family income didn't budge from August 2015 to November 2016, according to Sentier Research. It's up more than 4% since Trump came into office. Wages are on the upswing.


    https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-trump-booming-economy/
     
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    Blue-collar jobs are growing at their fastest rate in more than 30 years, helping fuel a hiring boom in many small towns and rural areas that are strong supporters of President Trump ahead of November's mid-term elections.


    Jobs in goods-producing industries — mining, construction, and manufacturing — grew 3.3 percent in the year preceding July, the best rate since 1984, according to a Washington Post analysis.

    Blue collar jobs, long a small and shrinking part of the U.S. Economy, are now growing at a faster clip than those in America's much larger service economy. Many factors collided to produce the blue collar boom. Some are tied to short-term boom-and-bust cycles, but others may endure. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/msn/under-trump-the-jobs-boom-has-finally-
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    • How good were the 10.9 million jobs under Obama?
      Money.CNN.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/jobs-under-obama/...
      Nov 03, 2016 · CNNMoney breaks down what kinds of jobs have been created and ... Almost all of the job gains under President Obama have been in so-called service jobs,


    The deep recession wiped out primarily high-wage and middle-wage jobs. Yet the strongest employment growth during the sluggish recovery has been in low-wage work, at places like strip malls and fast-food restaurants.

    In essence, the poor economy has replaced good jobs with bad ones. That is the conclusion of a new report from the National Employment Law Project, a research and advocacy group, analyzing employment trends four years into the recovery.

    “Fast food is driving the bulk of the job growth at the low end — the job gains there are absolutely phenomenal,” said Michael Evangelist, the report’s author. “If this is the reality — if these jobs are here to stay and are going to be making up a considerable part of the economy — the question is, how do we make them better?”

    The report shows that total employment has finally surpassed its pre-recession level. “The good news is we’re back to zero,” Mr. Evangelist said.

    But job losses and gains have been skewed. Higher-wage industries — like accounting and legal work — shed 3.6 million positions during the recession and have added only 2.6 million positions during the recovery. But lower-wage industries lost two million jobs, then added 3.8 million.
    HTTPS://www.nytimes.com/…/recovery-has-created-far-more-low…



    77 percent of 2013 jobs were part-time positions ...
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/2/part-timer-nation...
    Aug 02, 2013 · Fully 77 percent of positions added to the market in 2013 have been part-time, in contrast to the positive economic news making the media rounds, according to payroll reports released in recent weeks.


    "There are now 1.2 million fewer jobs in mid- and higher-wage industries than there were before the Great Recession, according to data from the National Employment Law Project. In contrast, there are 2.3 million more jobs in lower-wage sectors than before the recession," according to CNBC. Nor is there the hoped-for renaissance in American manufacturing. We have some 300,000 fewer manufacturing jobs since President Barack Obama took office and 1.5 million jobs below the pre-recession level.



    https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/08/23/the-part-time-economic-recovery


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    Not quite what your hearing on MSNBC and CNN is it? Do you wonder why you never hear any of this on the air with them? They'll tell you Obama brought back the economy and created 11 million jobs. But that isn't telling you anywhere near the truth. That is half truth and nowhere near what they are trying to feed you.
     
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    Trump has been calling for that.

    Trump calls for elimination of tariffs, end to US being world's 'piggy ...

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/09/politics/trump-g7-tariffs-trade/index.html

    Jun 9, 2018 - President Donald Trump on Saturday said he wanted to see the ... Trump calls for elimination of tariffs, end to US being world's 'piggy bank' ..... Trudeau said Canadians are nice but added, "We will not be pushed around.".
    Trump suggests dropping all tariffs, trade barriers at G7 summit ...

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    Ever sense Trump won the Presidency the Left has been dumping on him Lying their ass off, or telling half truths. They have brought up charge after charge against him and said a million times this is an impeachable charge, only to find out what was said wasn't true. But do they apologize or retract the lies? You never hear all the good this man does and eat up everything they tell you. Yes, he lies a lot. Mostly embellishing on things. But most of his lies hasn't hurt anyone and this country is in better shape than it's been in decades. Your just not told any of it. I learned a long time ago, if it sounds to bad to be true, it usually isn't. I check it out. Most of what they tell you is a half truth. But if or when you ever hear the other half, it's usually totally different than what they are trying to feed you.
     

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