MOD EDIT>>>THREAD MOVED<<<. I personally do want to see the USA Embassy moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem as soon as it is practical and possible to do so. I shared a message about this to a President Trump support group that I had created yesterday. From there I shared to many other President Trump support groups........ and the reaction was so anemic....... so lacking in enthusiasm....... that it seems obvious that President Trump has little choice but to take the condition of his supporters into consideration when he makes such important decisions. Under these set of conditions..... a delay would seem necessary. I don't think he is guilty of lying about this..... I think he wants to do this........ but President Trump and his team depend on the state that his supporters are in before he can do something this huge. I believe the accusation "Trump lies" is an exaggeration......... and is a violation of one of the laws of Moses........ Exodus 22:28 "Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people." Acts 23:5 "Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people." Trump Lies – Breaks Promise To Jews, Prevents Embassy Move To Jerusalem
For sure not! Even the Ex- Israeli Ambassador of Israel in Germany told clearly in an interview that this is dangerous BS which will heat up the ME more as well the hate of Arabs on US people. So ... even if Trump does this BS really, I hope the next President kicks this decision into garbage and moves embassy back to Tel Aviv!
Here is the message that I shared all over the place yesterday: https://www.facebook.com/joelleydenjoelleyden/posts/10154418067241945
Thank you for this thoughtful comment on this somewhat confusing question Mandelus. With the exception of the year and a half that I was in Quito, Ecuador I have lived in Canada for all of my 58 years so I admit that it is awfully difficult for me to fully understand the dynamic of events in Israel and the Middle East. I am going to make excuses for President Trump because I do not think that this is an entirely easy thing for him to do. I personally would have been extremely happy if President Trump had decided yesterday to move the embassy..... but I do have to agree with you that this is not a decision that can be made without a lot of discussion with people who understand the whole situation a lot better than I do. I am of the belief that the little nation of Israel is in a position where they can set in motion a boom in the world economy....... and I do believe that inspiring enthusiasm in Israelis is a very worthwhile thing to do........ but I have to admit that timing is critical. P. M. Justin Trudeau and a plan for Canada, Jordan - Israeli cooperation on....
I am of the belief that billions of lives are in danger from the probable consequences of climate change over the next five to ten decades. I see an agreement on the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple as one of the only effective opening gambits for climate stabilization. Moving the USA embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem seems to set the stage for this. Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple may be least expensive way to stabilize climate?
I also believe that both Jews as well as Christian intellectuals should be able to agree on the idea that G-d....... places something like infinite value on each human life......... ... and we will need to revamp the monetary system of many nations if we are going to come up with the money necessary to save billions of lives of people who barely know their right hand from their left....... President Lincoln saved taxpayers four billion dollars...how can we do this in 2013? http://www.michaeljournal.org/articles/politics/item/abraham-lincoln-and-john-f-kennedy
The nation of Israel began to experience COOLING in their climate in the 1950's. I believe this is because they began to apply the Carl Theory on climate stabilization, as soon as they became a nation. Carl is not big on a carbon tax or cap and trade system..... but his idea sure fits with Isaiah chapter 35.. .which both Jews as well as USA Christian Trump supporters should be able to agree on. Carl Cantrell.
The deep state got to Trump and convinced him that it was all according to plan that the US embassy in Israel not be moved to Jerusalem. Post #2 explains why: It will heat up the ME.
I do believe that the Middle East can be cooled down....... in terms of climate..... in terms of unemployment..... in terms of terrorism and hostility........ in terms of streams breaking forth in deserts..... The Sahara Forest Project...and saving New Orleans and Florida from rising oceans! Is turning deserts green a good response to climate change? No, only a carbon tax of some form will stop climate change! 2 vote(s) 6.5% * Yes, plants are both a carbon as well as a water sink! 13 vote(s) 41.9% No, we should never engage in geo-engineering of any form or shape, EVER!!! 6 vote(s) 19.4% * Yes, with one billion hungry, how can we go wrong by producing more food? 15 vote(s) 48.4% Multiple votes are allowed.
Dennis by heat up we mean the Arabs are going to do their anti-Israel thing in overdrive if they don't get their status quo Jerusalem for Arabs.
We Jews are for the majority leftist and liberal so we don't give a flip about trump. Our identity isn't predicated on the embassy moved to Jerusalem, the christer goyim (who trump pandered to) on the other hand, has a hard on to move the embassy to fulfill their lunatic delsuions of their ends times fantasy , real low iq people
I would like to think that there might be at least a few exceptions to that obviously accurate general rule......... I know that my offer was sincere....... I believe that my offer was "good"........ P. M. Benjamin Netanyahu, let's get into the production of.... .... semi reality science fiction film projects that are partly financed through alternative local currencies, and/or State currencies, and/or community currencies......... that address specific problems that human beings are facing now in 2015?
Yes... I figured you meant that..... but there is something unusual about the Islamic world...... they seem to have greater respect for a strong President like Donald J. Trump or George W. Bush........ who seems to be willing to start a war....... than they tend to have for President Obama who pandered to the Islamic world rather openly. Those G-8 meetings of 2011..... were unlike anything that had happened in decades...... Gracias a Dios for P. M. Stephen Harper.... because in my opinion.... President Obama meant well.. but I do believe his initiative was naive......... badly timed........ and extremely dangerous..... because if the Palestinians get too enthusiastic.... thousands of them tend to get themselves killed... .and it would have been for nothing....... In my opinion P. M. Stephen Harper saved the lives of thousand of Palestinians and probably several hundred Israelis.... at least...... by standing up to President Obama On Israel, Harper stands alone at G8 summit - The Globe and Mail
Granny says, "Dat's right... Trump Recognizes Jerusalem as Israel’s Capital, Calls for Moving US Embassy to Jerusalem December 6, 2017 | President Donald Trump on Wednesday announced that the U.S. will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and has instructed the State Department to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, thereby fulfilling his campaign promise. See also: Rev. Graham: No President in My Lifetime Has Defended the Christian Faith Like Trump December 6, 2017 - In reference to remarks made by President Donald Trump at the lighting of the national Christmas tree, Rev. Franklin Graham said no president in his lifetime had taken such a "strong, outspoken stand for the Christian faith" than President Trump and that he needs our prayers.
In my opinion.... this was one of the most courageous....... and wise....... and win - win - win - win decisions made by any USA President in fifty years or more!
Of course. Germany has 100% surrendered to Islamic fundamentalists. Whatever they demand, the Germany government gives them. Want to gang rape Germany girls? A-OK. What to flood Germany's social programs? "Come in!" What it criminal punishable by prison to say anything against Islam or the historic mass murdering pedophile serial rapist who declared women are animals to be beaten? Sure. Germany surrendered to the Empire of Islam and has agreed to become a province of it - hoping anti-secular, sexist, bigoted and ignorance religious fanatics taught from birth to hate atheist Germans will take care of the millions of childless indigenous Germans in their old age. The question is as more and more Germans try to flee their own country as it is forcibly and violently transformed into an Islam state, should we refuse to allow them to come to the USA as was done eventually with German Jews? I say no as most will bring their cowardice and socialism that destroyed themselves with them. Let them yearn for someday maybe in a thousands or two years they might against have a homeland where they are safe like the Jews.
President Lincoln was not in President Trump's position because the racist Democrats of Lincoln's era who wanted to destroy the United States and radically opposed any sense of equality to blacks had left with the Confederacy. Thus President Lincoln could do what needed to be done for the country including the country's economy and safety. He did not have the Democratic Party throwing up every obstacle possible. Unfortunately, unlike President Lincoln, President Trump has to content with as racists Democratic Party now as we saw in their hate and fury at blacks approaching employment equality with whites - 100% intolerable to the Democratic Party now as it was in Lincoln's era - and as determined to divide and destroy the unity of the United States as was the anti-American Democratic Party in Lincoln's era. Had President Lincoln had to deal with today's Democratic Party the Democratic Party would have what it wanted then and now - total racial division, white supremacy and blacks perpetually subservient to white people. History repeats itself - and for the worse.
Jerusalem will make a suitable capital for a single, unified Levant confederation. When it happens, opening ambassies there will be okay, I guess. So - Third option.
The decision to move the US ambassy to Jerusalem is older than Trump's regime. Looks like better minds prevailed for now. One can tell many things against the US and its dirty politics, but it nonetheless have failsafes to prevent catastrophes, to some point.
If the State of Israel declares that its capital city is Jerusalem, then the United States of America should recognize that fact and honor it, so long as the State of Israel recognizes that the capital city of the United States of America is Washington D. C. How I wish that all our other problems were so easy to solve.... Next?
But at least a problem being more challenging....... that presents us with serious cognitive dissonance has the advantage of setting us up for potentially more serious returns on investment. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ump-has-a-4-3-trillion-dollar-problem.525406/ M. P. Bill Casey... President Trump has a 4.3 trillion dollar problem....
Lol ... again and again the same Bullsh** about the islamic part of our Population and the refugees ... and showing with your answer to have no clue about realities, only BS written stuff replied. Only time wasting to go in deeper to this BS to show what Kind of nonsense this post is...
Statism vs Complete Independence (Anarchy/Self- Governance), which one will survive the war of ideas?
