Trump manages to anger another major ally

That’s just dumb.

 

Not even close Lil Kim's in the drivers seat in exactly the same way you'll be the first martian colonist Never, not no way not no how.

 

Well actually trying to take over everyone else's interests is what didn't work out well for them.

 

You can do the homework if you have the curiosity and initiative to learn the truth as true liberals do. I have no interest in doing your homework for illiberals. It's a waste of time.

 

Actually, they attempted to create an empire through aggression. Hitler, Tojo, and Mussolini were not the least bit interested in other people's interest.

This is what happens when nationalism takes hold in a country. Nationalism caused the major wars of the 20th Century.

 

What is Trump attempting to do with his tariffs? It makes no sense. It is almost as if Trump is doing Putin's bidding. Trump is severely damaging our national security by threatening our friends and allies. Ostensibly, he is trying to protect his base. But he is hurting farmers and factory workers with his tariffs, not helping them.

On March 8, Trump announced a 25% tariff on steel and a 10% tariff on aluminum. Immediately, there was an uproar from our friends. When he formally announced the tariffs, he immediately exempted Canada and Mexico, nos. 1 and 4 on the list of steel exporters to the U.S. Shortly after, he exempted Australia. The day before the tariffs were to go in effect, Trump exempted the E.U. and a few other of our friends. Wall Street began to treat Trump's tariffs as a joke. The stock market has recovered somewhat from the slide Trump created.

But Trump did not exempt Japan, an extremely valuable ally in East Asia and part of a check on North Korea and Chinese aggression in the South China Sea. Japan remains the only major US ally which was not exempted from the 25 per cent tariff on steel imports and a 10 per cent tariff on aluminum imports. Prime Minister Shinzō Abe visited the U.S. in an attempt to get Trump to reverse his decision. Trump refused, straining the relationship with his one-time friend.

Why? Why is Trump threatening a valuable ally in East Asia, an ally vital to our national security?

It gets worse. The exemption afforded to Canada, Mexico, Australia, Argentina, South Korea, Brazil, and the member countries of the EU shall apply only through the close of April 30, 2018.

This is Trump's idea of negotiating trade deals. Since his negotiation talents failed, he is attempting to use threats. Problem is, nations don't respond well to threats and they have long memories. Consequently, they have a tendency to do the very opposite of what was desired.

More than likely, this is the kind of response Trump will receive. A trade pact originally conceived by the U.S., the TPP, to counter China’s growing economic might in Asia now has a new target: Trump’s embrace of protectionism. A group of 11 nations — including major United States allies like Japan, Canada and Australia — signed a broad trade deal that challenges Trump’s view of trade as a zero-sum game filled with winners and losers.

For that reason, threatening our friends is a very bad idea.

Since the use of threats to create trade deals, Trump has signed one trade deal. That deal is with South Korea. Since South Korea's very survival is dependent upon the U.S., that deal has been likened to parents making a deal with their child. After sixteen months in office, the great deal-maker has signed one trade deal -- the one with South Korea.

This will not turn out good.

 

I believe this use by this forum for Sandy Shanks impending new book stinks.

 

Exactly what I meant by take over everyone else's interests. They insisted that everyone else's interests should become theirs sort of like never Trumper's now.

 

Too funny. Trump is Hitler, Tojo, and Mussolini all rolled into one for stating “make America great again”.

 

How is reducing the global supply and consequently reducing the price of natural gas doing Putin’s bidding ??

Hilarious.

 

Robert, what are you talking about? Do you know? I haven't written a book in fifteen years. Not going to, either. Too much work.

 

Regarding wars of aggression caused by nationalism, your statement is illogical. The only interests on the part of the aggressor is the aggressor's interests.

When Putin annexed Crimea, do you think he was the least bit concerned about the interests of Ukrainians?

 

What is hilarious is your post. What does the price of natural gas have to do with my post? Besides that, your statement makes no sense. Reducing supply increases the price.

But this thread is not about natural gas. Duh!

It is about Trump trashing a valuable ally, an obvious fact you are avoiding.

Japan remains the only major US ally which is not exempted from the 25 per cent tariff on steel imports and a 10 per cent tariff on aluminium imports.

Why is Trump doing this to a valuable ally of ours in East Asia? Like some kind of brainless thug he is using threats on an extremely important ally. Along with South Korea, Taiwan, and The Philippines, Japan is a check on the aggressive trading tactics and geographical expansion of China. His policy makes no sense. Why is he driving a valuable ally into the arms of China.

The answer lies in Trump's dislike for Obama. Sixteen months after the Obama administration became a footnote in the history books, Trump is still attacking Obama. That is Trump's nature.

The Obama administration spent eight years formulating a foreign policy vision that called for a central U.S. role in Asia to ensure the region’s stability, growth, and prosperity. Known as the “rebalance to Asia,” the policy involved coordinated efforts to boost U.S. defense, diplomatic, and economic ties with the Asia-Pacific.

Along with taking the U.S. out of the TPP, Trump is out to destroy everything Obama tried to do in Asia. Ironically, Trump now realizes his mistake and wants back into the TPP. Problem is, the current members, which includes China, do not wish to renegotiate the terms of the agreement to allow the U.S. back in.

You are a Trump fan. Defend Trump!

If you can.

 

What is with we Americans giving a damn what Crimea did? I read comments as if Crimea got captured. Crimea did not want to be part of Ukraine.

Now see what the citizens of Crimea wanted.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrap...ea-locals-prefer-moscow-to-kiev/#58f43a59510d

Kenneth Rapoza , CONTRIBUTOR

 

Jesus dude. Russians stirred up pro Russian folks in Crimea in order to facilitate their takeover of foreign territory.

That's not a new tactic. Hitler used it in Austria and the Sudetenland.

Read some friggin history will ya?

Why do we care? Because allowing Putin to reconstitute the Soviet Union is generally considered a bad thing...and that's obviously his goal

 

If that is a discussion, I sure want to see what an attack looks like. Fact is, it is one. (attack)

Why? Direct assault on poster of OP.

Crimea came to it's senses upon what? When the thugs in Ukraine kicked out the president. Imagine if you will it was republicans only it happened in DC. That thug Republicans kicked out Obama so he could not finish his elected term of office. Ukraine also has a constitution. I read it fully one day. It does not provide for the Maiden thugs to do what they did. Forget Crimea, they were content until they understood what happened in Ukraine.

I presented both a link and part of a discussion that addresses that the people of Crimea are thrilled to be included in Russia. So long as they are pleased, that is good enough for me.

 

It clearly shows that Trump is not controlled by Putin as so many of those afflicted with TDS believe.

Why would anyone waste time responding to some wacko rant by a TDS afflictee.

 

Kenneth Rapoza , CONTRIBUTORWashington and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, the bulk of humanity living on the Black Sea peninsula believe the referendum to secede from Ukraine was legit. At some point, the West will have to recognize Crimea's right to self rule. Unless we are all to believe that the locals polled by Gallup and GfK were done so with FSB bogey men standing by with guns in their hands.

In June 2014, a Gallup poll with the Broadcasting Board of Governors asked Crimeans if the results in the March 16, 2014 referendum to secede reflected the views of the people. A total of 82.8% of Crimeans said yes. When broken down by ethnicity, 93.6% of ethnic Russians said they believed the vote to secede was legitimate, while 68.4% of Ukrainians felt so. Moreover, when asked if joining Russia will ultimately make life better for them and their family, 73.9% said yes while 5.5% said no.






MOSCOW, RUSSIA - MARCH 18: People attend a concert and rally marking the first anniversary of reunion of Crimea with the Russian Federation on March 18, 2015 in Moscow, Russia. Crimea was annexed by the Russian Federation on March 18, 2014. (Photo by Dmitry Azarov/Kommersant/Getty Images)

In February 2015, a poll by German polling firm GfK revealed that attitudes have not changed. When asked “Do you endorse Russia’s annexation of Crimea?”, a total of 82% of the respondents answered “yes, definitely,” and another 11% answered “yes, for the most part.” Only 2% said they didn't know, and another 2% said no. Three percent did not specify their position.


With two studies out of the way, both Western-based, it seems without question that the vast majority of Crimeans do not feel they were duped into voting for annexation, and that life with Russia will be better for them and their families than life with Ukraine. A year ago this week, 83% of Crimeans went to the polling stations and almost 97% expressed support for reunification with their former Soviet parent. The majority of people living on the peninsula are ethnic Russians.

The U.S. made a big deal about the rights of ethnic minorities there known as the Tatars, which account for around 10% of the population. Of the 4% total that said they did not endorse Russia's annexation, the vast majority -- 55% -- said that they feel that way because they believe it should have been allowed by Kiev in accordance with international law. Another 24% said the referendum vote was "held under pressure", which means political or military threats to vote and vote in favor.

 

You are missing the point. Eventually aggressors will require that his victims adopt his interests as their own

 

This thread is about Trump trashing a valuable ally, an obvious fact you are avoiding.

Japan remains the only major US ally which is not exempted from the 25 per cent tariff on steel imports and a 10 per cent tariff on aluminium imports.

Why is Trump doing this to a valuable ally of ours in East Asia? Like some kind of brainless thug he is using threats on an extremely important ally. Along with South Korea, Taiwan, and The Philippines, Japan is a check on the aggressive trading tactics and geographical expansion of China. His policy makes no sense. Why is he driving a valuable ally into the arms of China.

The answer lies in Trump's dislike for Obama. Sixteen months after the Obama administration became a footnote in the history books, Trump is still attacking Obama. That is Trump's nature.

The Obama administration spent eight years formulating a foreign policy vision that called for a central U.S. role in Asia to ensure the region’s stability, growth, and prosperity. Known as the “rebalance to Asia,” the policy involved coordinated efforts to boost U.S. defense, diplomatic, and economic ties with the Asia-Pacific.

Along with taking the U.S. out of the TPP, Trump is out to destroy everything Obama tried to do in Asia. Ironically, Trump now realizes his mistake and wants back into the TPP. Problem is, the current members, which includes China, do not wish to renegotiate the terms of the agreement to allow the U.S. back in.

You are a Trump fan. Defend Trump!

If you can.

 

You can't be serious, or you are burying your head in the sand.

Nearly all of our friends and allies were exempted from Trump tariffs on steel and aluminum. The exception was our most powerful ally in East Asia, Japan. That exemption expires on May 1st.

Putin dearly loves the idea of Trump pissing off our allies in the E.U., Canada, Mexico, South Korea, and Australia. He wants the U.S. to become isolated from its allies.

That is exactly what Trump is doing with his tariffs!

Deal with the message, not the messenger. Defend Trump and what he is doing. If you support Trump, then you ought to be able to defend him.

So, defend him. This isn't about me.

 

Dude it wasn't hard it had been a Russian province for longer than it had been a Ukrainian one and Russians still outnumber Ukrainians substantially.

 

Hilarious. Keep the comedy coming.