Trump Needs Humble Pie

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  1. mbk734

    mbk734 Well-Known Member

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    His ego is too big yet fragile. He is like a stunted Alpha male with his strategy and policies. I do agree with many of the things that he has done, but he needs to chill out. I think he is going to make some big mistakes going with his gut instinct rather than thinking things through thoroughly. I don't think he is stupid but he just grew up sheltered and has some personality issues.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/busin...pke-work-advice-1218-biz-20161215-column.html

    "I'm, like, a smart person." — Donald J. Trump, soon-to-be leader of the free world.

    Those words from President-elect Trump were offered recently as an explanation for why, since winning the election, he has turned away some of his daily intelligence briefings.

    The implication is that he doesn't need reports from America's intelligence services because he is already intelligent enough.

    I bring this up in a workplace column not to start a partisan political fight but to argue the importance of humility in modern-day leadership, if not in government then at least in our places of work."
     
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    I would describe him as smug and overconfident and I just think it will be his downfall.
     
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    Or it may be his only real strength, that confidence (unfounded many would say) has gotten him awfully far. Would a huge hit to his ego paralyze him and his administration?
     
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    Some do not like the continued winning.

    Unlike Obama that was not prepared for the world stage Trump’s personality is exactly what we need. A fighter that keeps the opposition off balance and considers Americas values and economy to be more important than the one world order global elite club that has little value for American ideals.
     
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    I think he is smarter than people give him credit for and misquote him. What he says and what he's thinking/planning could be quite different. His whole tough businessman persona could just be a front and way of garnering attention.

    I think he will be one of the most analyzed and psychoanalyzed presidents of all time. His unpredictability is both a strength and alarming to foreign countries. I do agree with him on many policies. I just think he is not going about it in the best way, but you can't deny that he is changing the status quo and getting things done.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You talking about this guy?

    But look how lovable he is

     
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    I think if the news organizations gave him some credit for what he does, he would be less likely to brag on himself. My personal opinion.
     
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    Kinda reminds one of parts of Europe in the 30s and 40s. Just change "America" for "Germany" and "Trump" for "..."

    Oh... I'm not supposed to say. I just remembered how Republicans are now such fierce defenders of political correctness.
     
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    That is so awesome! Thank you for posting that, I hadn't seen it before! Da boss is in da house!
     
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    Of course you can say it. Just makes you silly and certainly not a student of history but then that is what TDS does to folks.
     
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    The left needs Xanax....
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    Humility is not Trumps strong suit, but then humility is a highly over-rated trait. While they could be worse, I think the Tribune should at least match Trump's successes before telling him how to run a business.
    And fragile, Trump is not, not by a long shot. He does not lash out because his ego is bruised, he lashes out because he knows scurrilous attacks must be responded to. He is holding up beautifully in the face of the strongest attack against the country and its president ever.
     
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    A stunted alpha male? Lets discuss humility as you asked. Post your accomplishments next to his. Im curious to see what the list looks like of someone who considers Trump to be a stunted alpha male.
     
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    yup

    never seen such arrogance before in politics
     
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    It's like this Bub.I don't think many in this country had a probem
    with the 50's Hit Series - Superman -. From mild-mannered reporter
    Clark Kent then on a moments notice transforming into a caped
    crusader,riding the landscape of nefarious characters and evil-doers.
    That what our current President is doing and attempting.
    Under Obama we had a terrible America.Rampant jobless and
    new Anti-ameircan movements like - Occupy Wall Street - and then
    BlackLivesMatter.Where ordinary citizens were blocked from making
    their way to work and bricks were thrown at Cop cars and squatters
    took over parks in many a big city.Rampant lawlessness and the outright
    riots,burnings of big city and shooting of Cops while BlackLivesMatter
    shock troops made their voices and actions heard.
    Not good for America let alone Americans.All while a Communist Activist
    { Obama } acted cavalierly cool as if to signal ...:
    What ... Me Worry
    Truly unbelievable as Obama pushed his race card agenda
    saying if he had a son it would be a Trayvon Martin.
    Obama not one lick tolerant of the true grass roots movement of
    the Tea Party.Even referring to them as TeaB*ggers.Unbelievable.
    Constant attacks on the Tea Party by Obama's House leader
    Nancy Pelosi and Senate leader { Harry Reid }.
    It was under Obama that Pens were built to house Illegals.
    Didn't hear a peep out of those Fraudulent Dimocrats ... did ya.?
    You are Living a lie and when a True Crusader like Donald Trump
    comes around,as if Superman,you act all woozy and bewildered.
    Some like Dr. Jerome Corsi believe that the election of Donald
    Trump was done by the hand of God.Works for me.
    What works for you ... Bub.?
    The Days and nights of Obamaism.While citites are taken over
    by radical squatters or Burning from Riots,as Obama knocks
    off early from the golf links to entertain and be entertained by
    wealthy donors.
    Yer a Nut.
     
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    humility has its place as also does in your face, bare knuckle, tell it like it is, no holds barred actions. Trump in my opinion has, is, represents way too much of the later and none of the former. If Trump was the later, say 10% of the time, only when the situation arose that needed an in your face approach, he probably would receive kudos for that. Not 100% of the time which makes him seem more like a schoolyard bully than president.

    I don't think most of us expect any president to act humble. But we do expect any president to act respectful, civil, let's say presidential. I don't think acting respectful, presidential would bring any support from the democrats. But it certainly would tone down the hostility. Acting presidential would in my opinion bring a whole more more independents to his side. Trump's egotistical, uncouth, obnoxious behavior is the main reason he has lost a lot of the independents support he once had. Showing respect to the leaders of other countries is a must. Sure on can call a country like the USSR an evil empire, but being civil and respectful to our friends and allies is a must. Discussing disagreements behind closed doors and not in front of TV cameras with them is a much better way to come to agreements and get what the U.S. wants than bashing them in front of god and everyone.

    Sure there are times when a public bashing is needed. Not many, rare and few. But most of the time a quiet, serious talk alone with which ever leader one on one behind a closed door will accomplish much more.
     
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    Yeah.... it's silly because it's so obvious. But basically you say that TDS makes you smarter. If that is so, then you should get some. You certainly need it.
     
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    The S in TDS doesn’t stand for smarter.
     
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    I find myself suddenly worrying that it might stand for "Schutzstaffel"
     
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    Well, the TDS are beginning to resemble that.
     
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    Millions of Liberals think Steve Jobs was a genius and amazing person, when in fact he was a total ******bag, complete egomaniac and major ******* to almost everyone around him. But he got **** done.
     
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    In other words, “I hope he fails “.
     
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    Yes it is more than evident pres. trump has a huge ego. Egoism on steroids. I do not think this is a destructive thing, in a president, unless it creates stupidity, which IMO, it has not done, at least so far. And I seriously doubt that it will.

    When you observe trump, you see a consistency, from what he was saying years ago, which is available for viewing on You Tube. In interviews. On some things like abortion, he changed his mind, but this is a plus, not a minus. But on many things, trade policy, foreign relations, war mongering, he has hardly changed at all and still holds those beliefs he had years ago and expressed. Not always in the best manner, mind you, but average and forgotten americans can appreciate his expression, for it sounds like what you would hear on a working construction site. Many americans can relate to what he says and the manner in which he says it. And these people put him into office. Because they were sick and tired of the treasonous status quo coming from well honed, lying scumbags in DC who refused to represent this significant group of working americans. Franks in his book, Listen Liberal( Franks is a liberal democrat pissed off at the sold out DP) goes into it rather astutely, but the dems don't want to listen to the guy, for he is telling the honest to god truth about democrats and that party, and this is not what they want to hear, and certainly not consider.

    Pres. Trump, IMO, just from observation is very intelligent, and much more intelligent than the hillary voters would ever admit. He trusts his gut, but that gut is backed by observation and experience. He is intelligent enough to KNOW not to trust everything his intel briefer informs him of. Unlike many americans, apparently trump has paid attention to what has come from US Intel since 911, and he understands they are far from infallible, and many times accessments are made not from actual factual info, but from ideology. From beliefs that are not necessarily backed up by what their analysts tell the upper boys in intel.

    For instance, in the highly public Intel report on russian meddling, that came from cherry picked intel people, not of the 17 agencies as reported by MSM, but only 3, that accessed that russia interfered with the last election, on page 13 there is the caveat that there wasn't hard intel to back up the appraisel, the opinion of these people from the 3 agencies. Then you have congress, can't recall if it was the House or Senate verifying and agreeing with this accessment not backed up with hard facts and intel! Did they also agree with the plausible deniability caveat also included in that report? ha ha.

    Point is, Trump knows he cannot trust his own intel, and he has believed that for years. Because of their fu*kups. Because heads of intel will commit perjury in front of congress, and because the CIA will spy on its own oversight committee, breaking its charter, and not one head rolls!! He is intelligent enough to understand these agencies are led by humans, and some of them have an agenda. So he is much more intelligent in knowing this than his detractors are in their partisan attacks. (not speaking of you here)

    If anyone puts complete trust in our intel, they are idiots, IMO. How many reasons or examples does one need in order to not trust their word as from God's mouth to your ear? If you understand what intel has become, you would not trust everything they told you either. But I have no doubt if there was something very relevant, very important, of a real deal national security matter, that pres trump would take that briefing. He isn't stupid. He just understands what intel has become, and that Schumer was right when he said the CIA could get a president 6 ways from Sunday. And he knows what that ex FBI hillary supporter said about CIA operatives coming home, full of venom for trump, and what they might do, once they arrived at soggy bottom.

    Bush Jr. or Cheney, were taking intel briefings from intel, before 911. And yet the greatest attack we have seen since Pearl Harbor happened, even with that admin taking briefings. There is a good reason trump is not taking them, if indeed that is the fact. Is he never taking these briefings? Can that be verified by real journalists(if you can find one in MSM) ? If he is not taking any, I would find that very odd, but if he only takes some of them, I am not upset nor surprised. I would imagine many of them cover the same things, and its a repeat, with perhaps a few new developments. But not that consequential, or anything to be concerned about. After all, the intel groups must look like they are earning their keep, right?

    Anyways, I have no fear that trump will ever make the kind of mistake the bush jr. admin did, nor that trump will sell out working americans by more deindustrializing, sovereignty robbing new free trade agreements that creates even more trade deficits. I think on the important areas, he is on top of it. I would also think that like any decent CEO, he delegates authority to very intelligent, able people that he surrounds himself with. There is nothing that would make me think contrary to this.

    I am more than happy to give the man 4 years, and then evaluate at that time. Without questioning everything that he does or does not do. So far, to date, I do not see an inept president, stupid, as the hillary boys say daily here, in their irrefutable hyper, hate driven, and very weak partisanship. I do not like some of the way he communicates, but I also think he is much more intelligent than the MSM faux journalists who try to make his life a hell. Perhaps in the belief that they can break him, cause a melt down, and reveal their disconnected from reality beliefs to be true. I don't think that will ever happen. He is playing them, and is an expert in doing that. I don't believe many of these faux journalists have a clue as to his chess game, which they will not win. They are operating or trying to operate beyond their pay grade, IMO. Slinging tons of crap, with the high hope that some of it will stick to the walls to deal him harm, like panties hurled at a wall sticks after an orgy filled weekend among the modern so called Left.
     
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    Did your boss do your job, or did he delegate that job for you to do? Every job I worked, it was my duty to complete it and correct problems and if serious I would alert my foreman or supervisor.. I'm sure if there were something serious enough Trump would get the news from his advisors ;)
     

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