Trump praises Duterte's deadly drug war in leaked transcript

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by HereWeGoAgain, May 28, 2017.

  1. primate

    primate Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    1,205
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83
    It's your opinion he's a Buffoon which is fine. He says some stupid things at times. You're making up his admiration and it's unlikely Duterte is either a sociopath or a murderer. The latter is the kind of thing reasonable people are put off by. The Democratic party will never influence most independents like me with rhetoric like yours and theirs of late.
     
    modernpaladin likes this.
  2. primate

    primate Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    1,205
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I'm sorry but I don't see the right as nearly as 'emotional' as the left; at least in regards to the rhetoric. I'm still unable after all these years to mind read.
     
  3. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2017
    Messages:
    27,700
    Likes Received:
    21,100
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    Ok, this i gotta hear.

    How is Trump 'an abuser'?
     
  4. Distraff

    Distraff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2011
    Messages:
    10,833
    Likes Received:
    4,092
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Was Duerte convicted of mass murder yet or is this still just an accusation? Did Trump know about this when he made these comments? Was Trump praising this aspect or something else he did? Stop making crazy claims about Trump, thats what Trump supporters do.
     
    modernpaladin likes this.
  5. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2017
    Messages:
    27,700
    Likes Received:
    21,100
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Accusation. He is essentially conducting 'summary execution in the field' while his country is being ripped apart by terrorists and drug cartels. Its not 'a good thing' by any means, but thats what govt does when its in chaos. We wouldnt do any different.


    No mention of or aknowledgement was given to the extrajudicial executions in the Trump-Duterte phone call. (transcripts- https
    ://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3729123-POTUS-RD-Doc.html#document/p1 )

    Ya, they're not gonna stop. I've made these points a dozen times in this thread. All they got left is 'Trump bad! Duterte bad!' I dont really think they care whether Trump can convince Duterte to Convince China to put a muzzle on North Korea and circumvent WW3 (as was the purpose of the Duterte-Trump convo) so long as they get to keep having Trumpfits.
    Apparently the POTUSs job is to badger the worlds dictators about how dictatorial they are, not try to prevent nuclear armageddon.
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2017
  6. Ineffable

    Ineffable Newly Registered

    Joined:
    May 26, 2017
    Messages:
    176
    Likes Received:
    91
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Gender:
    Female
    No, it's an admission that you on the left are never going to win another presidential election. I might as well become a republican because it appears you knuckleheads will never put up a decent candidate. I can already see that the left's plan is to attack Trump for 4 years and then nominate a candidate that'll attack Trump's supporters and tell them how deplorable they are. It's all happened before and it's all going to happen again. Why not just disband the democratic party? It's about dead anyway.
     
  7. For Topical Use Only

    For Topical Use Only Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2011
    Messages:
    8,308
    Likes Received:
    2,290
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The West is the most propagandised of entities and the best access point for propaganda is via how we feel not what we think. The right surely talks a lot about how they evaluate rationally and without emotion but it's untrue. The rhetoric (from all comers) is almost entirely based upon either promoting fear or feeling fear. This is what propaganda has done to the Western mind. We are hyped into an emotional state and from there we act it out.

    Advertisers still buy in to the advertising they're subjected to so no, you ain't a special snowflake who isn't susceptible to propaganda, it's not designed to leave you alone.
     
  8. Jimmy79

    Jimmy79 Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2014
    Messages:
    9,366
    Likes Received:
    5,074
    Trophy Points:
    113

    I agree with you. Quit playing world police and concentrate on the US.
     
  9. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2014
    Messages:
    17,608
    Likes Received:
    2,043
    Trophy Points:
    113
    In all fairness, he is doing what he was elected to do by an overwhelming number of voters.
     
  10. primate

    primate Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    1,205
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Not on either side but yours IS pure propaganda. I'm not hyped about any of the rhetoric but I am concerned by the irrationality and intensity of it as well as the violence on the left. I've never seen this environment. The Civil Rights movement and the 60s weren't this crazy in the main. Where's it going?
     
  11. Distraff

    Distraff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2011
    Messages:
    10,833
    Likes Received:
    4,092
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This is a very tiring trend in politics, the opponents attack the president for absolutely everything even if its swatting a fly, the supporters will support the president for almost anything even if he takes a sh** on his desk in the oval office. I know that Trump is particularly unqualified and overall a bad president but we need to be both critical and fair when evaluating his performance.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  12. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2014
    Messages:
    56,891
    Likes Received:
    21,024
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Previously: Care to try the topic or are you really captivated by me ??


    Guess the topic eludes you and you are captivated. ;)
     
  13. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2014
    Messages:
    56,891
    Likes Received:
    21,024
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Oh , woe is me !!!




    :roflol:
     
  14. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2016
    Messages:
    27,942
    Likes Received:
    19,979
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm an Independent and I say you are either out of touch with reality, or you don't care if Trump buddies up with killers.

    Duterte has made no secret of his executions. He even publicaly bragged about killing people himself.

    So what does it take to jolt you back to reality? Or don't you care?
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2017
    FoxHastings likes this.
  15. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2016
    Messages:
    27,942
    Likes Received:
    19,979
    Trophy Points:
    113
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...keep-shrugging-it-off/?utm_term=.da52286c91f4
     
  16. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    63,174
    Likes Received:
    4,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just to be clear, how many people did Robert Byrd murder?
     
  17. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2017
    Messages:
    27,700
    Likes Received:
    21,100
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What Trump *should've* done to please the left:

    "Hello Mr Duterte. I just called to tell you that you're a jerk for killing people without a trial. I'll be writing a very nasty letter to the UN about your behavior, and maybe we'll kill you for crimes against humanity.

    I just wanted to tell you that.

    Now, could you kindly help us with China and North Korea..."

    Because nothing smooths politics over like criticism and threats.
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2017
  18. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2016
    Messages:
    27,942
    Likes Received:
    19,979
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Don't be obtuse. He went out of his way to congratulate Duterte on his drug policy - a policy of mass murder.

    Here, it is confirmed that Duterte admitted to his connection to the death squads on public TV, which he had previously denied. He defies anyone to try stopping him.
    http://www.filipiknow.net/rodrigo-duterte/
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2017
  19. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    42,206
    Likes Received:
    14,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Duterte's political success has been aided by his vocal support for the extrajudicial killing of drug users and other criminals.[11] According to Reuters, human rights groups have documented over 1,400 killings allegedly by vigilante groups occurring in Davao between 1998 and May 2016; the victims were mainly drug users, petty criminals and street children.[12] Duterte has alternately confirmed and denied his involvement in the killings.[13] A January 2016 decision by the Office of the Ombudsman on the alleged death squad in Davao between 2005 and 2009 found "no evidence to support the killings attributed or attributable to the Davao Death Squad much less the involvement of Mayor Rodrigo Duterte".[14] The case has since been reopened.[15] Duterte has repeatedly confirmed that he personally killed three kidnapping suspects while Mayor of Davao in 1988.[16][17]

    Nice guy Donald...Good job
     
  20. primate

    primate Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    1,205
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I have no problem with executions during martial law. What you fail to understand, in your rush to be righteously indignant yada, is that he is in a fight for his country. It is the jihadists trying to take the Phillipines and using drug money to finance it that makes it okay to kill them wherever you find them. Incorporating a militia, that being the non-jihadists of the Philippines, is just fine with me and probably the vast majority of the country including those who overwhelmingly voted him into office. You have zero idea of what it takes to fight a battle or war. You likely can't even wrap that leftist head around the idea it's either them or the jihadists.

    In case you don't remember, today is Memorial Day. A day to remember the Fallen which goes all the way back to the revolution against the British to found this country which allows you to spout your nonsense without fear of being imprisoned or executed.

    But back to your accusation. You and others like you have invented the narrative that Trump is buddying up to Dueterte. That's your agenda showing and is not based in reality. Go back and read the transcription without your leftist filter on (you're not an independent Chief). It's standard political talk to will you try and help us with China for the most part.

    PS: Please, notice I said jihadists and not all Muslims just so I don't have to hear anymore of your nonsense.
     
  21. primate

    primate Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    1,205
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Focus on that instead of the Philippines being in a fight for their country with jihadists using drug money to finance their operation. It's not extrajudicial when there is martial law and the use of militia. If they are killing street children then I condemn that while supporting the killing of jihadists and drug dealers. You do understand that the south of the country is in deep trouble.

    Now, I do understand the guy is a loose cannon with a horrible mouth and is very non-political. And I'd bet big money he's done and supported some unlawful actions. He's not a good guy. But he may be a decent alternative in the interim to battle the jihadists.

    This is not some simple problem.
     
  22. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2016
    Messages:
    6,923
    Likes Received:
    4,269
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I have no idea. The Klan kept a lot of stuff secret. There is a video of him talking bad about African Americans so he clearly did not like them.
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2017
  23. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2016
    Messages:
    6,923
    Likes Received:
    4,269
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  24. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2010
    Messages:
    56,157
    Likes Received:
    30,618
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They'll ignore this question the same way they'll ignore the fact that Byrd had left the KKK well before any of the photos in question. Pathetic.
     
  25. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    42,206
    Likes Received:
    14,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Marshal law is an EXTREME measure and nothing warranted it in the Philippines
     

Share This Page