Trump praises Duterte's deadly drug war in leaked transcript

Hey...ya don't like your neighbor? Kill him and claim you are a drug vigilante and he is a drug dealer.

No questions get asked.

 

I figured it wouldn't be long before Trumpers were defending cold-blooded murder.

 

On no! Just the southern part of the country is lawless anyway and overrun with jihadists and drug dealers yada. I mean what the hell were they thinking?! They should wait until at least half the country is gone before exterminating the vermin.

Think of it this way. Most of the Southeast of the USA is essentially lawless and overrun with jihadists and other criminals bent on destroying the country. If you aren't in favor of martial law including not only the National Guard fighting but also a suspension of habeas corpus to allow our own military to fight as well, then get out of the way and let those who will fight.

Go back and read history and see what happens to populations which to not repel invaders.

Are you just trolling or actually that out of touch?

 

They're not my neighbors. I have great aloha. But if jihadis were here taking over our land then I'd fight for our land and way of life. You people are insane about this reducing an invasion to the idea people are just running around and indiscriminately killing their peaceful loving neighbors. You couldn't possibly spin this in a more insane way.

I'm thinking you people are just trolling and laughing at the responses rather than being serious. No one in their right mind could actually believe the ridiculous rhetoric spewing out your pinholes.

 

Every intentional killing is illegal (at least in the US) and is therefore murder.

"Everything Hitler did was legal." - Martin Luther King Jr.

So "legal" is whatever a government asserts is legal. Unfortunately "legal" often has very little to do with what an enlightened society believes is moral.

As in the US, it is prohibited by the Constitution.

No it certainly isn't but then again, very little the US government does is legal, including waging war.

"War is a Racket" - Major General Smedley Butler, USMC

 

War is a political entity. It can be justified or not. I've lived thru both. It's an absurd assertion that very little the US government does is legal. If you said at times the US engages is what many would consider unconstitutional and/or illegal or even immoral actions then we'd agree.

 

Street kids and minor felons are not jihadis and Duterte is an admitted killer

 

I'm not war between differing cultures tends, very unfortunately, and especially so with poorly disciplined troops - the only kind either side in the Phillipines is deploying - to produce inordinate numbers of Rapes, It happened with soviet troops during WWII, Japanese troops in Nanking and American Troops in Bamburg. Hell Duerte is actually placing limits on something that is already way too common.

 

Whether you believe it's an "absurd" assertion or not, it is what it is. The US government violates most of its constitutional limitations virtually daily and in so many ways. The Constitution defines and determines what is legal. It is the Supreme Law of the Land by self definition (Article VI Paragraph 2). US government created laws are only legal when and if they are fully constitutionally compliant. The vast majority of created laws are not and certainly many of its actions are not either.

I can't say the above qualifier ("at times") is true when I know it's not, it's just about always, so we'll have to disagree.

 

I'd have to see a reputable source for that including its sources re the street kids. You people seem intent to believe anything from any source. IF it is true then I would condemn that. I don't readily believe it.

 

Any time someone uses the word always you can almost bet huge money it's not true. On the face of it, it's just an absurd statement. But I appreciate your civility a great deal.

 

Hilary Clinton vowed to go to war against Russia, meaning openly vowing kill billions of people - and millions of people voted for her.

 

So now the Democratic Party and MSM wants to go to war against the Philippines too. Is there any country the new warmongering Democratic Corporate Fascist Party does not want to make money off of by war?

 

The US government is not the Constitutional Republic guaranteed by the Constitution (Article IV Section 4). That means it is in constant violation of the Constitution by that alone and by the 10th Amendment (but that's far from the only determining criteria). So bet all the huge money you want, "always" is quite accurate in this case.

I have no problem with your personal characterization that my assertion of the facts is "absurd". I certainly don't expect many to agree because most live under the illusion that it is a "Democratic Republic" (I can't even use the term "Constitutional Republic" with a straight face). It is not democratic because ordinary Americans do not have a choice or a voice and it's certainly not a republic because it is much closer to a corporate oligarchy.

Thanks I try if I can but in your case, I can't say characterizing my opinion as "absurd" falls within the bounds of civility, sorry.

 

I said your statement was absurd not you were so don't go all mookie on me. I'll buy way into the statement the Federal government is a far cry from what the Founders envisioned but unless you want to start talking specific examples then most of the Republic is working lawfully.

I'm a libertarian but a practical one. And yes there is much to change or if you will revert to a working Republic. But all of it is not illegal by any stretch.

 

He went out of his way to stroke the ego of an obvious egomaniac who holds a potential political key to unlocking a peaceful alternative to WW3. It doesnt take a political mastermind to see the 'politics 101' going on in the transcripts of the phone call.

Nothing Duterte has done would hold a candle to the carnage, tragedy and devastation of the global nuclear war that analysts and politicians from every corner are saying we are now closer to than ever before, and North Korea and China are at the focal point. Buttering up a tyrant like Duterte to pressure the Chinese isnt even a 'longshot' strategy here, its a 'no sh*t, sherlock' textbook political play, and you 'Never Trump'ers are really showing your true colors with this hysterical demonization of common, standard political maneuvering. Im not sure whats more ludicrous- what your doing, or that you think anyone is buying it.

Trump isn't exactly turning out to be the beacon of grass roots liberty and justice that his voting base had hoped for. Theres plenty to call him out on. Yet you choose what is obviously an attempt to prevent nuclear armageddon for this weeks virtue signaling circle jerk. You've completely lost your sh*t.

 

Look I can use some choice words about your opinion too and that would be insulting but I'm not going to go there in order to keep the discussion civil, so let's keep it at that.

I already cited one specific example of why the US government operates outside the Constitution and therefore illegally 24/7. I can cite many more specific examples if you'd like.

I don't like to use class labels because it connotes group think mentality. I am Bob and I have my own personal ideology, some components of which are shared by others.

Our founding document explains what will likely be necessary for change (see my signature below).

Another self-professed "libertarian" disagrees. You may have heard of Michael Badnarik? See video Part 1 beginning at about 2:00.

https://archive.org/details/Michael_Badnarik

 

And that makes him equal to Duterte who has admitted to murdering people personally?

 

A man who congratulates Duterte on his campaign of murder. You think that is better than Hillary? She missed three "C"s on a memo and you all had a cow. Trump supports cold-blooded murder and you're fine with that.

 

This isn't about Hillary. This is about America having a murderous thug as President.

Is this what America is now; a country that supports mass murder? Is this the new America?

 

In nuclear war not mass murder?

 

Theyre freakn outta their minds

 

Non sequitur.
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Psychiatrically speaking I am labeling part of a post and not you. I see no reason for you to take that personally as the statement is a healthy one by those standards. However, if you are still offended then please accept my apology as I meant you no disrespect.

We can agree and disagree to degrees about the rest although we seem to be somewhere on the same page.

Cheers.

 

This is an ironic post. I know of no murder Trump has committed. However, I can make a case for murder concerning Benghazi although perhaps a cover up is more appropriate. You can also add in the negative consequences of Libya as a whole and all the murders by jihadis from the power vacuum.

So let's be careful about throwing that word around. I realize any time a bomb is dropped or artillery shell fired some on the left cry murder but legally and otherwise it's not and no one is going to be prosecuted. The world needs passivists to balance our clear war like nature as humans but don't confuse fighting aggressors as murder. Otherwise we'd all be speaking another language long before now.