Trump parading "victims of illegal immigrants"

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  1. Mac-7

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    Trump parading "victims of illegal immigrants"

    The truth seems to be making lefties uncomfortable
     
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    No just the fact that the right is again calling all illegals rapists,drug mules, and murders, by implying that all illegals are responsible for the actions of a few.
     
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    You have to indoctrinate them young like how Hitler established the Hitler Youth Corps in 1922 to gain full power over Germany years later.

    America's radical left needs those little brown face illegal alien children along with MS-13 and 18th Street Gang.

    The Democratic party already controls ANTIFA and soon MS-13.
     
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    You dont listen very well

    The right is pointing out that included in the illegal alien invasion are many criminals

    And any number of thieves, rapists, child molesters, murderers and drunk drivers higher than ZERO is unacceptable
     
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    What does our law say? It should be followed to the letter. If you don't like the law, get it changed.
     
  6. undertheice

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    "asylum seekers", this is the new catch phrase for the pro-illegal immigration, open borders crowd. yes, there is a real problem in central america. there is a real problem in asia, africa, the middle east and nearly everywhere else in the world. take a good look around at the real world. it isn't all sunshine and lollipops, there are real dangers everywhere you look. take a look at the western hemisphere alone and you'll find that its southern half is filled with slaughterhouses and incredible poverty. civil unrest and criminal gangs run rampant. does this mean we take in all comers? does this mean we take in everyone who tries to sneak in across our borders and welcome them with open arms?

    we are long since past the point where we could afford to do that. we have our own crime and poverty to deal with without these people bringing in more of it. we've dumped untold billions into their problems from both public and private sources and the only answer they've been willing to come up with is to run away and sneak into our country. maybe, just maybe, we can try to help them again after we put our house a bit more in order. until then, everyone who comes along screaming "asylum, asylum" is going to have to endure close scrutiny. they are going to have to put up with the inconveniences and humiliation that is the lot of the beggar.
     
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    They, the commie globalists, have extended the rights and liberties our forebears fought and died to secure to every swinging dick on the planet, no questions asked...

    just come on in...
    anyone who says otherwise is HITLER!

    they're now arguing that it's a "human right" to take up residence anywhere one pleases....which also offers a little insight into their disdain for (other people's) private property.
     
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    The Democratic Party must be falling behind on their schedule in not having Mueller arrest all those parents and having them put in solitary confinement so they can not talk about their murdered children.
     
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    Nearly all the victims are white and none were rich so why would the Democratic Party do anything but declare their deaths desirable anyway?
     
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    The Democratic Party has proven who amoral sociopathic it is really is.

    Why don't you post some more messages calling "the Jews" murderers as your way of having posted your support of "the Gestapo?"
     
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    Out of curiosity how does one go about telling a Mexican from a refugee? Mexicans don't fall under refugee's, so what is there, like they all give a stool sample, blood sample or are they wearing different name badges that state name, number of children and origin of departure?

    Or do they just all just say "I from Guatemala" and make up a name a little later, like 20 days later ;)
     
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    That is the Democratic Party's solution. The Democratic Party says we should have all the rapists and murderers in Central American come to the USA so Central America can be safer. Ideally, the Democratic Party hopes to have every South and Central American country and Mexico send all their convicted rapists, pedophiles, murderers and young male gang members to the southern border to bring them into the USA.

    In that way they will be making those countries safer - while at the same time quoting the Statute of Liberty's "Give my your murderers, rapists and pedophiles yearning to be free" plus hoping those criminals will violently assault and punish as many Americans as possible for the crime of being an American. Besides, the more people the Democratic Party can get murdered the more it helps their anti-gun rights goals.
     
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  13. MissingMayor

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    Do you say nonsense like this in real life?
     
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    I stopped it there, that all that need to be done, problem solved!

    Thank for being rational and using logic!
     
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    You never watched the Hitler Channel back when the History Channel use to be the Hitler Channel ?
     
  16. undertheice

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    we used to use the term "god given right". even though i'm an atheist, i could appreciate that phrase. i liked it because it made plain that these were rights not dependent on human agency. the mere fact that you were a human being was enough. among those rights was the notion of ownership, the idea that others could not simply take what you yourself had earned. the people of the united states have earned the right of ownership of the lands within our borders. humanity has subdivided the planet into a series of national boundaries and it just so happens that the citizens of the united states are situated here. we own it. we all own it. it may be further parceled out to individuals, but taxes for this must be paid. these taxes are to remind us that eventually the land returns to all the people of this nation. this land does not belong to the people of mexico or of el salvador or bolivia or anywhere else. it is the duty of our government to protect that ownership and, if their governments have any conscience at all, it is the duty of those governments to protect their ownership of their lands. this is basic stuff folks, but it's stuff that the open borders crowd seems to willfully forget. these borders are there to defend the cultures contained within and the people who are dependent on those cultures. while the globalists may want us to believe that everyone everywhere in the world is basically the same - that's a crock of sh*t. these different cultures have shaped the economies and lifestyles of these separate peoples and any massive influx of a different culture has a deleterious effect on the members of the native culture. it is an invasion or even an infection. if such an invasion is abetted by the government of a foreign power it is an act of war. if it is abetted by a domestic power it is an act of treason.
     
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    Your definition of property differs from Locke's. He was more referring to ownership of "self".

    Our government protects its borders, but has always been open to welcoming new citizens. It does not protect ownership over land or wealth like some privately held stock in a company.

    The fear that you and other protectionists exhibit in the idea that immigrants are taking something from you is littered about history. When it takes over a country, it is always to that country's detriment.

    People are a country's greatest asset.
     
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    i am a pragmatist first, constantly striving to keep my idealism in check. i don't give a damn about locke, but if we are going to speak of self-ownership then we must also consider that the labors of that "self" are an integral part of its existence. a nation or society, like the individuals within it, has an existence and the fruits of its labors are as much a part of it as of its constituent individuals. yes, we have always welcomed newcomers, but not everyone gets immediate admission to this e-ticket ride. sometimes you have to wait patiently in line, in the blazing noon-time sun, for your turn to come along. sometimes the park closes down before you get your chance on this amazing adventure. america, more than any other nation, knows the value of accepting and incorporating outsiders into our society. our culture is a weird mixture of bits and pieces from nearly every corner of the globe, but not all of these people are assets. massive uncontrolled invasions, like the one a certain front-runner in mexico's upcoming presidential election is advocating, fracture the existing culture. standing against such policies is not protectionism, it is survival. it's easy to spout trite phrases like "people are our greatest asset", but you extrapolate too far from this cliché. more people does not necessarily mean more assets. in a country where we worry about our population being too bottom heavy, adding too many more to the base of the pyramid shouldn't be encouraged.
     
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    Yeah how dare he. The left has a copyright on disgusting propaganda. They should take him to court.
     
  20. MissingMayor

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    Talk about the topic of go away
     
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    Disgusting propaganda isn't the topic? Huh. Why did you bring it up then?
     
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    LOL, another left wing hysterical lie.
     
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    Seems like every where I turn these days is disgusting propaganda. I see kids in cages that turn out to be protestors protesting kids that were caged 4 years ago, but somehow, somewhere, there's a new batch of caged kids that are way more caged now then they ever were caged in the past. Don't care why they are caged. Doesn't matter. Kid. Cage. That's all you need to know.

    Ohh. You should probably know that they were ripped from their parents loving arms. All of them, torn from perfectly good parents that fed them, sheltered them, provided them with health care on the gruelling rape filled march from Central America through Mexico, which apparently has zero obligation to help these people, and into a well thought out career here in America.

    Ya wanna see some disgusting propaganda? Go to Brazil and watch the Venesuelan refugees living under bridges and in tents occupy wall street style. Plenty of crying hungry children to video there.

    Better yet, I bet you can find loads of caged kids in Libya. We don't care about those ones though. They probably have it way better in those cases than in ours.

    Propaganda is all around you buddy. Your problem is that you believe yours.
     
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    There you are. As I said, you wouldn't recognize propaganda if it bit you. If you enter this country without a visa, and without declaring yourself an asylum seeker at a US port of entry, you are illegal. The US has an embassy in Mexico as well as 9 US consulates. I specifically asserted that Angel parents do not oppose legal immigration, and you feign outrage because the parents only speak to the problems created by illegals. You don't really need to repeat your scripted talking points. I have no trouble at all recognizing propaganda.
     
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    They are not asylum seekers they are illegal immigrants that got caught. So they claim they are seeking asylum. If that's what they really were doing, they should go into a US Embassy and apply. Not sneak across the border, that's what makes them criminals.
     

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