Trump pardoned a construction-company owner whose family donated over $200,000 to his campaign

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    History disagrees
    I am sure in 100 years they will add a side note with your opinion though:rolleyes:

    Factual, I have no reason to make anything up.
    I look forward to the eventual investigations that will occur after he is booted out of office.
     
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    You go with that.
     
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    Bill Clinton pardons brother
    The younger Clinton brother was pardoned by his brother Bill for a cocaine distribution conviction, for which he spent over a year in prison.

    WASHINGTON — President Clinton ended his tenure Saturday by pardoning 140 Americans, erasing the criminal records of his brother Roger, Whitewater business partner Susan McDougal and 1970s kidnapped heiress Patricia Hearst in a mix of personal and historical acts of clemency.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I will!
    Thanks for your permission!
     
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    No, I don't, and I'm pleased that he wasn't pardoned. I just hope the state of Illinois does something stupid and enable him to become eligible for public office again.
     
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    Yep, as innocent as Clinton.
     
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    Clinton committed perjury, suborned perjury and obstructed justice and was impeached because of that.

    Trump was impeached without committing any crimes.
     
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    Trump abused his power, and obstructed congress and was impeached because of that.

    they are both innocent in the same way.
     
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    There is no such crimes.
     
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    So then WTF is Trump doing? Blagovitch isn't even a Republican. He's one of our sleazebags. What gives? Connections?
     
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    True, but if you want to say pardoning the guy was in any way bad you'd have to prove Trump's motives. Otherwise this isca non event. Just like Ukrainian was because Trump's motives were never proven to be nefarious.
     
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    incorrect, which is why he is impeached.
     
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    No Clinton took a plea. We have been over this.
     
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    Impeachment is just an accusation, and the Dems didn’t even accuse him of a crime.

    he was exonerated by the Senate, and won’t face any charges when he leaves office related to the conduct. Unlike Clinton who had to take a plea based on his conduct.
     
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    I know, and you were refuted then as well.
     
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    he was exonerated by the senate in the exact same way Clinton was.............meaning not at all.
     
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    He didn’t take a plea???
     
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    No he was found not guilty, he wasn’t exonerated because he took a plea for his crimes with the DOJ. Trump was exonerated because there is nothing to plea too, his behavior wasn’t criminal and won’t be taking a plea for his conduct. So he is fully exonerated. Words matter.
     
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    strawman
     
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    They were both exonerated in the exact same way by the senate..............as in not at all.
     
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    As repeatedly highlighted you are factual incorrect
     
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    Remember all the democrats screeching when Slick Willie pardoned 456 criminals?
    Neither did I.
     
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    Nope, he took a plea based on his criminal acts, which lead to his impeachment.

    Exonerate means something: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exonerate
    Definition of exonerate


    transitive verb

    1: to relieve of a responsibility, obligation, or hardship
    2: to clear from accusation or blame
    Other Words from exonerate

    What happened to Clinton in the Senate doesn't fit, because he took a plea for his criminal behavior.

    President Trump won't, since nothing that was alleged was criminal.
     
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    as you are well aware, I am demonstrably correct. The senate exonerated both Clinton and trump, in the exact same way.
     
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    strawman
     

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