Trump, Pelosi, Schumer spar on border wall in Oval Office

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  1. Reality

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    We've got to pass it to find out what's in it
     
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    I didn't see any debating in the video, just a lot of trying to talk over each other.

    So, the flurry of words erupting from all over the room was about funding "the wall," right? But then Trump claims elsewhere that Mexico is paying for the wall thanks to USMCA, right? Then why does Trump want taxpayers to pay for what he claims Mexico is paying for?
     
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    I saw that..good stuff!
     
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    It seemed like a threat to me. I was hoping more people would chime in.

    Every DNC paid poster is on this thread trying to spin this into some kind of win for democrats. I guess the workload got to him and he resorted to threats.
     
  5. MAGA

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    Are you really saying you aren't smart enough to figure this out for yourself?

    If so, let me know and I'll explain it in terms a 10 year old could understand.
     
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    Threatened? Huh?

    Did you report it to the Mods?

    That is the sort of thing that should be reported to the FBI and the Internet Cops.

    That is Major. Wow. The Foundation of The Republic is in jeopardy.

    Have you contacted Homeland Security, yet?

    PS--Trump got completely OWNED.

    If anyone has a different perception, then I am sure that they believe that "1+1=3" .
     
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  7. Durandal

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    You must be very proud of yourself.
     
  8. Adfundum

    Adfundum Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Oh, please explain.
     
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    Bring a couple divisions back from Europe and pay them for helping the USA instead of helping Europe.
     
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    So if you build Trump's wall all white Americans will feel safe and give up their guns?
     
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    Trump is talking about building a wall across the entire border. Or has he officially changed his position. Strategic deterrants are different from a big beautiful wall across the entire border.
     
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    The new NAFTA is basically the old NAFTA with a few dlight updates and cosmetic changes and neither makes Mexico pay the 20 plus billion for Trumps erection.
     
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    Actually the only real funny part was Trump's immaginary three million illegal votes for Hillary. That and of course now that there actually is a real case of boting fraud it turns out that it was the Republicans party that did it.

    Maybe the Republican party decided to cheat to prove that their claims of voting fraud were real. Maybe next they will pay a few illegals to commit terrorists acts to prove that terrorists are coming across the southern border illegally.
     
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  14. MAGA

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    More likely Republicans don't do it as much as Democtats and aren't that good at it.
     
  15. MAGA

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    Playing the race card and the Fascist card at the same time.

    You still lose.
     
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    If we build a wall does that mean Democrats are coming for our guns?

    Remeber post like this when Democrats tell you they support your right to own a gun.
     
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    I rather use it as a learning moment.

    I say Democrats have 0 standards and here they are on this thread proving me right. If someone made a subtle threats at you I would call them out. Then again... I have "standards".

    Democrats will approve and justify any action they feel benefits them including subtle threats.

    Is this a new tactic we will see more of?

    Are Democrats going to start making subtle threats towards resistance and give those who do it a pass?

    You better watch this space.
     
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    If you had any standards you wouldn't like people here making subtle threats, even if directed at people you hate. But then again I wouldn't expect democrats to behave civilly until they have complete power.
     
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  19. MAGA

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    Ok. First remember Trump was speaking to people smart enough to already know this, so he might have spoken over your head. I don't think it was intentional.

    1. All spending goes through Congress. Mexico is not allowed to write a check to pay for the wall. It's a "Constitution" thing.

    2. Much of the money we save by having a deal that doesn't transfer $Billions from America to Mexico replaced with a deal that is good for America will go into the same treasury. These savings include but are not limited to things like unemployment benefits and welfare.

    3. When Americans take jobs back from Mexico Americans go from welfare recipient to tax payer. These tax funds also go into the treasury.

    4. Businesses that move from Mexico to America stop paying into the Mexican treasury and start paying into the American treasury.

    5. Now all Congress has to do is appropriate a small part of the savings and revenue increases to pay for the wall to protect Americans from the drugs, criminals, terrorists, and illegals that flood in from Mexico

    The bonus is that since the wall is paid for, the $Billions we save by reducing drugs, criminals, and welfare to illegals is all profit...
     
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  20. Colombine

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    I didn't say that.

    I presented a simple equation based on numbers you stated.

    Well they're your stats so blame yourself.

    I'm responding to posts. I'm not going to write a complete essay every single time.

    I haven't tried anything. You're basing conjecture upon your own assertions. That might work on talk radio but it won't fly past me.
     
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    To my knowledge nobody has ever carried out a complete cost based analysis on how much it would require to build a wall along the entire southern border of the United States to include labor, materials, land purchase, not to mention the endless legal battles over eminent domain that would likely ensue.

    Well, purely as a matter of interest, the above would be a good start. But it's kind of moot because, once we have that figure, we just ask Mexico to cut us a check in that amount as promised repeatedly and vociferously on the campaign trail?
     
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  22. MAGA

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    Yeah.. Democrats are pro gun ownership just like they're pro border security.

    I suspect they will show how pro-business they are soon with legislation designed to bankrupt them.
     
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  23. Colombine

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    He doesn't have the votes to build a complete border wall in the house either and he definitely won't come January.
     
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    Dupe!
     
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  25. MAGA

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    I explained this to another informationally challenged poster just a few posts up.
     

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